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The man formerly known as Prince can fall no further....

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LovesBach Thu 30-Oct-25 19:07:24

Breaking news is that Andrew will now be Andrew Mountbatten - Windsor, his title is no longer, and he will move out of Royal Lodge.

petra Mon 03-Nov-25 22:26:22

Ilovecheese

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Why would people in America, near Capital Hill, be watching the BBC.

You’re missing the point. The doctored clip was shown on Panrama= a bbc programme.
It has nothing to do with American viewers.

Allira Mon 03-Nov-25 22:31:04

The way ronib's post read was that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech in order to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Ilovecheese is not the only one who understood it to mean that, I did too.

ronib Mon 03-Nov-25 22:41:43

Well who knows what motivates the BBC? Truth and honesty?? The clip was shown on the World Service apparently. The changes made by the BBC are a slur on Trump and I hope he sues them out of existence.

Allira Mon 03-Nov-25 23:06:43

petra

Ilovecheese

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Why would people in America, near Capital Hill, be watching the BBC.

You’re missing the point. The doctored clip was shown on Panrama= a bbc programme.
It has nothing to do with American viewers.

From ronib's post above, petra, if looks as if ilovecheese and I were both correct in our interpretation of his/her post.

Time to hide this thread, it's like going down the rabbit hole.

imaround Mon 03-Nov-25 23:55:15

I interpreted the message the same way, which is why I was confused as to what this had to do with Andrew.

Thank you to those who clarified what the BBC uproar is about. I hope Trump sues them too. It will open him up to discovery. He doesn't like discovery. It means people learn the truth about him.

David49 Tue 04-Nov-25 07:15:38

The BBC has an agenda on many topics, in the Trump speech the speech was deliberately edited by cutting and splicing to change the context.
They deliberately cut “ make your voices heard” and inserted “fight fight fight”.

ronib Tue 04-Nov-25 07:23:33

And what is the BBC’s agenda on Andrew more to the point? Best stay on topic after all.

ronib Tue 04-Nov-25 07:44:26

The Fall of Prince Andrew Panorama 4th November at 8 pm.

Doodledog Tue 04-Nov-25 08:02:01

David49

The BBC has an agenda on many topics, in the Trump speech the speech was deliberately edited by cutting and splicing to change the context.
They deliberately cut “ make your voices heard” and inserted “fight fight fight”.

Is there a source for this, please? I haven’t heard anything about it until this thread, and would like to read more.

ferry23 Tue 04-Nov-25 08:18:15

Doodledog

David49

The BBC has an agenda on many topics, in the Trump speech the speech was deliberately edited by cutting and splicing to change the context.
They deliberately cut “ make your voices heard” and inserted “fight fight fight”.

Is there a source for this, please? I haven’t heard anything about it until this thread, and would like to read more.

I read it here

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/03/bbc-report-reveals-bias-donald-trump/

lemsip Tue 04-Nov-25 08:19:43

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/03/bbc-report-reveals-bias-donald-trump/
The BBC “doctored” a Donald Trump speech by making him appear to encourage the Capitol Hill riot, according to an internal whistleblowing memo seen by The Telegraph...

petra Tue 04-Nov-25 08:21:11

Doodledog

David49

The BBC has an agenda on many topics, in the Trump speech the speech was deliberately edited by cutting and splicing to change the context.
They deliberately cut “ make your voices heard” and inserted “fight fight fight”.

Is there a source for this, please? I haven’t heard anything about it until this thread, and would like to read more.

www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/03/bbc-accused-selectively-editing-trump-clip-capitol-attack

Anniebach Tue 04-Nov-25 10:23:44

Sooo BBC

Maremia Tue 04-Nov-25 13:39:01

Do the Americans believe that Trump 'encouraged' the riot on the 6th of January?

Maremia Tue 04-Nov-25 13:39:23

He did after all, pardon the rioters.

Iam64 Tue 04-Nov-25 13:53:38

He was culpable in the riots, he pardoned people convicted of serious offences, some against police officers. But yes, do blame the bbc

icanhandthemback Tue 04-Nov-25 13:59:48

These comments about Trump are completely off topic. Should another thread be started for those interested in them?

Iam64 Tue 04-Nov-25 14:07:29

Thanks icanhandthemback,I got drawn in to respond to what was almost certainly yet another deliberate diversion

Doodledog Tue 04-Nov-25 14:30:06

Thanks for the links.

I'm not sure of the connection to the Epstein case though. Is the thinking that if the BBC is shown to be unreliable then they can be accused of besmirching the name of Andrew M-W?

Anniebach Tue 04-Nov-25 14:43:57

Surely Andrew has besmirched his own name without help from the BBC

Polly7 Tue 04-Nov-25 15:34:46

Andrew-wise
silly arrogant foolish irresponsible maybe a bit naive. And you see clip of him opening the big door sheepishly annd grinning and letting out a teen. Speaks volumes I have a heart but it is so repulsive having a teen daughter himself especially
He has a long way to go -
His brother the King for any of his faults re Diana, must have struggled to do what's right he's torn by the country, his brother and the monarchy. Poor man and at this stage of his life
Andrew looks haunted! Iv wondered what his thoughts are. He just wanted it to go away as much has done in the past! What a brave girl Virginia has been nobody should be above the law and he hasn't been interrogated has he, Has blood on his hands now. I dot know how he gets up in the morning

Anniebach Tue 04-Nov-25 15:55:46

One ex security chap who has given interview of Andrew has served 3 years for fraud , someone I know searched him ,

ronib Tue 04-Nov-25 15:57:05

Doesn’t Andrew get up in exactly the same way as Virginia Giuffre’s husband and brother? Interesting how the close family is suddenly exempt from all responsibility.

Smileless2012 Tue 04-Nov-25 16:27:10

I would have thought their responsibility if there is any, would be far greater.

Mollygo Tue 04-Nov-25 16:37:21

ronib

Doesn’t Andrew get up in exactly the same way as Virginia Giuffre’s husband and brother? Interesting how the close family is suddenly exempt from all responsibility.

Regardless if my opinion on the Andrew stuff, you’ve got a good point there.
Seems like they’re using VG as a cash cow now. Where was their support before?