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Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

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foxie48 Fri 31-Oct-25 07:48:31

"A classified report by a U.S. government watchdog has found that Israeli military units committed “many hundreds” of potential violations of U.S. human rights law in the Gaza Strip that would take the State Department “multiple years” to review, according to two U.S. officials who relayed the details to The Washington Post.

The findings by the State Department’s Office of Inspector General mark the first time a U.S. government report has acknowledged the scale of Israeli actions in Gaza that fall under the purview of Leahy Laws, the landmark legislation that bars U.S. security assistance to foreign military units credibly accused of gross human rights abuses.

U.S. officials, who discussed details of the report on the condition of anonymity because the contents were classified, said the watchdog findings raised doubts about the prospects for accountability for Israel’s actions given the large backlog of incidents and the nature of the review process, which is deferential to the Israel Defense Forces."

Washington Post 31.10.25

The above was taken from today's Washington Post. tbh I don't think Netanyahu or anyone else will be properly investigated, what do you think?

Maremia Thu 13-Nov-25 13:57:57

That's an unpleasant new word for my vocabulary.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Nov-25 10:48:43

This

“Domicide” is the word for the purposeful destruction of homes, and there is another for the deliberate destruction of cities: urbicide. The term, which, unlike genocide, has not been codified as a crime in international law, gained traction after the Bosnian conflict of 1992–95, in particular following the sieges of Mostar and Sarajevo.
Targeting cities ensures people have nowhere to return to. “It’s about clearing spaces of those you think are different. And it’s about consolidating your control of those spaces,” says Martin Coward, a professor at Queen Mary, University of London, and author of the 2009 book Urbicide: the Politics of Urban Destruction.”

Gaza is a special case because it is such a concentrated area, meaning the damage has been great. And its people have not been able to leave.
In academia, “There is a debate about the relationship between deliberate destruction of cities and genocide,” says Coward. “I think they are distinct, but they go hand in hand.” (A government minister’s celebration of Gaza being “flattened” was cited by South Africa as evidence in its International Court of Justice case.)

Maremia Thu 13-Nov-25 10:13:20

A truly horrible story about the IDF using civilians to explore dangerous tunnels

Maremia Thu 13-Nov-25 10:12:37

Brutality and arson by settlers

Maremia Thu 13-Nov-25 10:12:17

Two more dreadful headlines about Israel ,Gaza and the West Bank

Babs03 Wed 12-Nov-25 10:35:31

Whitewavemark2

1500 buildings in Gaza have been blown up - just since the ceasefire.

Ethnic cleansing continues apace.

Of course it does. And nothing is said about it because Israel got their hostages back so as far as Israel and the US is concerned that’s a job done and to hell with Gaza.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Nov-25 10:32:08

1500 buildings in Gaza have been blown up - just since the ceasefire.

Ethnic cleansing continues apace.

Babs03 Wed 12-Nov-25 08:26:06

I just wonder. At the last election it was revealed many US citizens are unaware that Israel gets more funding than all other countries combined. If more of them became aware of this I am pretty sure they would robustly protest that this money is better spent on domestic issues.

CariadAgain Wed 12-Nov-25 07:22:40

Yep....now I've been finding out rather more about the whole situation and it does look like "the buck stops with America". Given the huge financial problems America is currently having = I wonder if we can hope that America will have to "draw its horns in" and stop stirring it like that (though - given that it's Trumps son-in-law that has his own greedy little eyes on profit for himself personally from their plans for Gaza = let's keep fingers crossed that I'm not hoping in vain).

It's incredible to think that a few peoples personal greed (eg that son-in-law) can negatively impact on so many others.

Babs03 Tue 11-Nov-25 18:56:29

And it is this hall pass that allows Israel to put two fingers up to the rest of the international community. Nothing will change whilst the US funds Israeli killing sprees.

valdavi Tue 11-Nov-25 18:42:07

AGAA4

I have just watched the programme on the IDF. It's good to know that some have a conscience and know what they are told to do is wrong.

Those who have constantly supported the IDF and said they don't kill civilians need to watch this.

Won't change their minds. They won't believe it's genuine. Israel has developed an incredibly convincing propoganda machine over the years.
As happens when you have a "hall pass" from the USA for far too long.

Babs03 Tue 11-Nov-25 18:39:20

Maremia

First reading of a Bill in their Parliament to allow the death penalty for 'terrorism'.

Well, yes, I mean they have given the death penalty to the whole of Gaza, why enshrine this in law when they have so little regard for laws of any kind.

Maremia Tue 11-Nov-25 18:08:04

First reading of a Bill in their Parliament to allow the death penalty for 'terrorism'.

Allsorts Tue 11-Nov-25 17:01:52

I think Israel will just get away with genocide, its who you know what matters.

AGAA4 Tue 11-Nov-25 16:54:41

I have just watched the programme on the IDF. It's good to know that some have a conscience and know what they are told to do is wrong.

Those who have constantly supported the IDF and said they don't kill civilians need to watch this.

silverlining48 Tue 11-Nov-25 13:26:46

It will be the tip of the iceberg WW, but it’s a start and I agree history will not be kind to Israel.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Nov-25 12:13:08

Frankly I suspect that what you saw in that programme is only the tip of the iceberg.

There are horrendous footage of what is taking place in Israel and West Bank by the Israelis against the palestinians.

History will not be kind to Israel.

AGAA4 Tue 11-Nov-25 11:54:19

I missed that but will see if it's on itvx. Thanks Maremia.

silverlining48 Tue 11-Nov-25 11:48:51

I stayed up late to see this programme and salute the courage of those Israeli soldiers with a conscience, talking so openly about the unnecessary violence meted out to innocent Palestinians, by them and their fellows.
Much of this was recorded on their phones, despite Israeli government forbidding this. Easy to see why they would not want this to be widely shared.
I have said before that these young soldiers will almost certainly suffer the cost of this behaviour in future.

Maremia Mon 10-Nov-25 15:28:12

This programme is not on the BBC.
It is on ITV.

Babs03 Mon 10-Nov-25 12:31:45

Maremia

Think it's on at 10.45 tonight. Might be a difficult watch.

Will try to watch it.
Thanks

Maremia Mon 10-Nov-25 12:23:45

Think it's on at 10.45 tonight. Might be a difficult watch.

CariadAgain Mon 10-Nov-25 09:44:09

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Maremia Mon 10-Nov-25 09:33:43

On ITV

Maremia Mon 10-Nov-25 09:33:25

'Breaking Ranks: Inside Israel's War'