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Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

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foxie48 Fri 31-Oct-25 07:48:31

"A classified report by a U.S. government watchdog has found that Israeli military units committed “many hundreds” of potential violations of U.S. human rights law in the Gaza Strip that would take the State Department “multiple years” to review, according to two U.S. officials who relayed the details to The Washington Post.

The findings by the State Department’s Office of Inspector General mark the first time a U.S. government report has acknowledged the scale of Israeli actions in Gaza that fall under the purview of Leahy Laws, the landmark legislation that bars U.S. security assistance to foreign military units credibly accused of gross human rights abuses.

U.S. officials, who discussed details of the report on the condition of anonymity because the contents were classified, said the watchdog findings raised doubts about the prospects for accountability for Israel’s actions given the large backlog of incidents and the nature of the review process, which is deferential to the Israel Defense Forces."

Washington Post 31.10.25

The above was taken from today's Washington Post. tbh I don't think Netanyahu or anyone else will be properly investigated, what do you think?

Maremia Fri 31-Oct-25 08:18:01

Hope so.
Amnesty International's recent funding appeal was for just that. To collect money to pay for criminal, legal, forensic investigations into the alleged war crimes.
Because of the volume of potential 'evidence', not every crime will be investigated, and not every criminal will be brought to justice.
Strategic choices will have to be made.
But the process has begun.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 08:20:41

If only...

Babs03 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:24:46

I very much doubt it.
Israel has had a hall pass with regard to its behaviour for decades so why start now?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:26:09

Israel many never answer in the courts for the crimes it has committed, but it answers to world opinion.

It will never recover the standing it once had with many millions of people and states.

Freya5 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:32:23

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Freya5 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:41:43

Albanese has been sanctioned by the US, and repeatedly shown up for her anti Israeli stance, by Natasha Hausdorff, a British barrister and International lawyer.

AGAA4 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:55:11

War crimes have been committed in Gaza by Israel but whether anyone will be prosecuted is doubtful.
I would like to think that those responsible for so many deaths and razing Gaza to the ground will be prosecuted but these evil people seem to evade justice.
The stain on Israel will be very hard to wash away.

Smileless2012 Fri 31-Oct-25 08:57:23

My outrage Freya is because genocide has been committed.

Babs03 Fri 31-Oct-25 09:04:41

Smileless2012

My outrage Freya is because genocide has been committed.

My outrage is the same. And by a first world country behaving like a rogue state.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-Oct-25 09:07:16

Yes, they should be prosecuted, of course. any attempt is most valid, targeting Netanyahu and other members of his regime, and it being clear its not "Israeli people": being prosecuted but a regime

Did we not all agree 100% and disgust to the trials after WW2 of the appalling men and women who had taken part in the Holocaust?

Wyllow3 Fri 31-Oct-25 09:09:18

I truly believe that there will be witnesses from within the IDF who will testify to what they have witnessed.

No, Hamas doesn't get an out of jail free card, but, again, its the leaders and any individuals who can be identified who should be prosecuted of course!

Cossy Fri 31-Oct-25 09:19:44

Sadly, tragically and wrongly I truly believe Netanyahu will get off scott free.

The devastation both he and Hamas have caused to two nations, with no thought whatsoever of their own people, just shows how evil both sides of this “war” are.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 09:24:02

Freya5

Albanese has been sanctioned by the US, and repeatedly shown up for her anti Israeli stance, by Natasha Hausdorff, a British barrister and International lawyer.

Huh???!!!

Puzzled 'r us. You can't mean the one who is among the "good guys" (ie gals in her case). Francesco Albanese (UN Special Raporteur - and doing a darn good job under threat).

She's having to put up with a lot of personal pressure for doing her job perfectly correctly.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 09:28:12

....not to mention Francesco is having various personal financial pressures put on her to try and blackmail her into stopping doing her job. Her own personal life is being got at - and yet she carries on. She's on my list of "I'd have her to dinner and lay on a darn good meal for her".

Babs03 Fri 31-Oct-25 09:48:56

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, I believe that those who masterminded the Oct 7th attacks are now dead. As for the rest they will probably do what terrorists do in these situations, go to ground in exile and eventually be found and executed by Mossad. So they probs won’t get the chance to face a court of law.
Israel are a first world democratic country supported by the US and until recently allied with many western countries. So Netanyahu and his cronies should face prosecution for war crimes, because the standard for first world governments morally should be higher than the standard for rogue governments and terrorists.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 10:17:13

The thing that puzzles me - and I'm not excusing any terrorist organisation (Hamas or otherwise) as that is not the way I would operate/not the way most of us would operate - but the big question arises "What could the Palestinians do to deal with them and try and stop them doing all this landgrabbing and restricting - both officially through their IDF and unofficially through their settlers?" What other way is there to react to them? One can't just sit back and get walked over and say "Here - have some more of our property. Kill some more of our people" - as that is defo not a realistic option.

Any other suggestions as to how to deal with Netanyahu and his ilk - and his predecessors etc before him? What other method is there? If you fight back = then at least you keep your self-respect of making it plain you are not just to be walked over and stolen from. If you don't fight back = then just what do you do?

Wyllow3 Fri 31-Oct-25 10:26:35

The next Israeli elections are going to be very conflicted indeed. Netanyahu remember has crimes within his country to be answered for and he is regarded as very wrong by those who passionately feel he lingered and lingered on doing deals for the hostages:

or people who feel that by going so far as regards Gaza, he has lost their respect as regards sheer humanity, and disagree their country should be invading the West Bank -for the sake of long term peace, and indeed, successful future international relationships.

Netanyahu is perceived by many as putting Jewish people in danger of a rise in Anti-Semitic sentiments over the world

But there will be those who passionately support him

Oreo Fri 31-Oct-25 12:56:41

Which is up to them, isn’t it Wyllow3? It’s their government, their country and their choice when there are elections.

Anniebach Fri 31-Oct-25 13:56:37

“What could Hamas do to deal with Israel”

Invade their country, rape, lock families in their homes and burn alive. Burn babies to death. Attack music festivals and shoot to kill.
Take hostages back to Gaza from Israel, even children .

And adhere to their beliefs to ‘kill all Jews’

Oreo Fri 31-Oct-25 14:01:52

Anniebach

“What could Hamas do to deal with Israel”

Invade their country, rape, lock families in their homes and burn alive. Burn babies to death. Attack music festivals and shoot to kill.
Take hostages back to Gaza from Israel, even children .

And adhere to their beliefs to ‘kill all Jews’

Exactly!
Hamas could have enjoyed running Gaza but also spent the squillions that came their way on improving the place for the two million Gazans living in the strip.
They chose evil and war on their own citizens.

Maremia Fri 31-Oct-25 15:04:15

How can you 'enjoy' running an area that is in effect an open prison. Which citizen rights did Gazans have that citizens of other countries enjoy? Freedom to come go to other places, as tourists?
Freedom to build a working port along that strip of beautiful coast?

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 15:09:55

Oreo

Which is up to them, isn’t it Wyllow3? It’s their government, their country and their choice when there are elections.

It's the government of part of the country, it's not their country and they're drawing in lots of money from other countries (eg America).

That means other countries have the right to have our say about what's happening there.

Oreo Fri 31-Oct-25 19:28:03

Part of the country? They are the government of Israel which is a recognised country whether you agree with it or not.

Maremia Fri 31-Oct-25 21:27:00

How much does Israel rely on aid from the USA?
Gaza relies on outside aid.
Does any aid into Gaza come from Israel?
It seems to be an unusual set up