Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

What is happening in Cyprus, Cariad?

I didn't really follow what was happening with that AGAA4.
Confused about why she leaked it.
But, it's out in the world now.

I don't think its over yet.

A top Israeli lawyer has leaked a video showing abuse on detained Palestinians. She has been arrested.

More proof that Israel can't claim to be a civilised country.

That may not be the worlds most realistic idea to expect that Hamas wouldnt be part of any new government that happens. If they don't take part in it as Hamas - they'll possibly do so under some other banner. Even somewhere more civilised (like Britain) has people quite deliberately standing under a different banner than the one they really belong under - I've had it put to me as a serious idea - ie to stand pretending to be a different party to what I was....and this is Britain. It happens......and I'm sure they know it does..

Whatever happens Netanyahu and his ilk will make excuse after excuse to continue the war - they've kept it up for over 70 years so far after all. Unfortunately I can't see them finishing it and acting logical/humane/etc any time soon. Though it would be nice to be proven wrong. The only blessing is with that xx character being in a human body = there will come an end to him personally at some point - as no-one can live for ever...no matter how evil they are. But someone like him might/probably will take over from him.

They are just a very warlike (would-be) nation. They're after Greater Israel. They're making moves (on an individual basis) in Cyprus. Personally - I wash my hands of them all (most of them - as there are some of them demonstrating against all this war....but most of them.....hmm..).

Of course there will be elections in Gaza, but part of the 'deal', supported by other States in the area, was that Hamas will not be part of a new government.

The Facebook ad has just come up again. It's a Save the Children maternity facility in Gaza, financed by world wide donations.

If as seems likely there will eventually be elections in Gaza, how can anybody stop Hamas putting up candidates and them being voted back into power? Perhaps even reinventing themselves to get round any boycott. It would be impossible, especially long term. No wonder Israel is twitchy.

There can be a future for Gaza without Hamas.
The people of Gaza must not be kept in thrall to Israel, just in case.
They are entitled to a their own future, citizenship, same as everyone else.

The IDF most certainly did not initiate the attack on the music festival, it did however mistakenly kill some party goers during the chaos. But at no time was that intentional, and to suggest otherwise is simply not true. The intention of Hamas is well known, that is, to kill every Jew on the planet. I think if I was a Jew, particularly living in Israel, I might feel just a bit uncomfortable about that so called government living next door!!

Anniebach

“What could Hamas do to deal with Israel”

Invade their country, rape, lock families in their homes and burn alive. Burn babies to death. Attack music festivals and shoot to kill.
Take hostages back to Gaza from Israel, even children .

And adhere to their beliefs to ‘kill all Jews’

You do know the IDF owned up to attacking the music festival themselves? Also The Israelis finance Hamas in order to make a Palestinian stae impossible. This is also admitted by Netanyahu.

Not often there is any 'heart warming ' news from Gaza, but reports and photos the other day, of babies born in safety and comfort at a now functioning hospital.
Hope the facility stays safe from random bombings.

Smileless2012

There's still time for them to accomplish that AGAA4.

That's true. Very sad.

There's still time for them to accomplish that AGAA4.

I think if there hadn't been so much opposition and condemnation from other countries Israel would have done what they planned and 'cleansed' Gaza of all Palestinians.
They have made Gaza into a wasteland inhospitable for human life. If it's ever rebuilt I don't believe the Palestinians will be living in the homes and businesses that will be there. What's left of them will be left in camps far away from the new buildings.

Very unusual set-up and I watched a channel (usually an "intelligent" one at that!!) yesterday where he was honestly saying "Look - there've been lots of other countries besides Palestine that have had some other lot just take it over at some point because they wanted it. You are the only ones fighting back - why don't you just follow the trend and just give in and let the invaders walk over you. Everyone else does..." and I was gobsmacked at his attitude.

Admitted I'm someone who fights back at a personal level - my neighbours could soon tell you I will NOT allow trespassing in my garden and won't stop until I've stopped it. So I understand the Palestinians fighting back and goodness knows they're only trying to fight to keep what is still theirs - and not even fighting to get back what has been stolen off them to date.

Quite a situation - when one side is only trying to keep what is still theirs whilst the other side has their eyes on doing a "Greater Israel" and now household by household are moving in on Cyprus (which I gather they started doing during Lockdown - as the Lockdown wasn't enforced so strictly there and now they're trying to set up enclaves there for themselves/build synagogues etc.....)

So its' "take-over merchants" v. "ones who are just trying to keep what they still have - after so much of their country has been stolen off them".

How much does Israel rely on aid from the USA?
Gaza relies on outside aid.
Does any aid into Gaza come from Israel?
It seems to be an unusual set up

Part of the country? They are the government of Israel which is a recognised country whether you agree with it or not.

Oreo

Which is up to them, isn’t it Wyllow3? It’s their government, their country and their choice when there are elections.

It's the government of part of the country, it's not their country and they're drawing in lots of money from other countries (eg America).

That means other countries have the right to have our say about what's happening there.

How can you 'enjoy' running an area that is in effect an open prison. Which citizen rights did Gazans have that citizens of other countries enjoy? Freedom to come go to other places, as tourists?
Freedom to build a working port along that strip of beautiful coast?

Anniebach

“What could Hamas do to deal with Israel”

Invade their country, rape, lock families in their homes and burn alive. Burn babies to death. Attack music festivals and shoot to kill.
Take hostages back to Gaza from Israel, even children .

And adhere to their beliefs to ‘kill all Jews’

Exactly!
Hamas could have enjoyed running Gaza but also spent the squillions that came their way on improving the place for the two million Gazans living in the strip.
They chose evil and war on their own citizens.

“What could Hamas do to deal with Israel”

Invade their country, rape, lock families in their homes and burn alive. Burn babies to death. Attack music festivals and shoot to kill.
Take hostages back to Gaza from Israel, even children .

And adhere to their beliefs to ‘kill all Jews’

Which is up to them, isn’t it Wyllow3? It’s their government, their country and their choice when there are elections.

The next Israeli elections are going to be very conflicted indeed. Netanyahu remember has crimes within his country to be answered for and he is regarded as very wrong by those who passionately feel he lingered and lingered on doing deals for the hostages:

or people who feel that by going so far as regards Gaza, he has lost their respect as regards sheer humanity, and disagree their country should be invading the West Bank -for the sake of long term peace, and indeed, successful future international relationships.

Netanyahu is perceived by many as putting Jewish people in danger of a rise in Anti-Semitic sentiments over the world

But there will be those who passionately support him

The thing that puzzles me - and I'm not excusing any terrorist organisation (Hamas or otherwise) as that is not the way I would operate/not the way most of us would operate - but the big question arises "What could the Palestinians do to deal with them and try and stop them doing all this landgrabbing and restricting - both officially through their IDF and unofficially through their settlers?" What other way is there to react to them? One can't just sit back and get walked over and say "Here - have some more of our property. Kill some more of our people" - as that is defo not a realistic option.

Any other suggestions as to how to deal with Netanyahu and his ilk - and his predecessors etc before him? What other method is there? If you fight back = then at least you keep your self-respect of making it plain you are not just to be walked over and stolen from. If you don't fight back = then just what do you do?