The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

Wyllow3

Me too. Its fear, partly: the thought that one of the most powerful man in the world can lie, and lie, and how his policies are now impacting on the very poor, a bizarre feeling of "Alice through the looking glass' where nothing it what is seems....

currently I dont know if people realise, but he is in negotiation with our government about drug prices, and it may put 10% on many of our regular meds, costing the NHS an unbelievable amount
Its one of those deals that would disadvantage us strongly if we don't take it in other areas, Hobsons choice.

Trump puts his own people first. He’s on record saying they’ve been ripped off for years. I actually admire him for it. It shows strength.

It’s up to other countries to ‘do a deal’ with him if possible. If not, sorry for us paying the full price.

What I have taken from this incident at the BBC is that because it is expected to be impartial when it is proved not to be, heads roll! Not minor heads, those at the very top have paid the price and that is what I expected to happen. I value the BBC news and when it falls short I expect it to be taken to task very publicly and it has been. I don't expect this to happen with other news media because I don't expect it to be impartial, which it clearly is not. If you take the time to compare the headlines in a number of different media, it's obvious that there is bias in most news reporting.

Me too. Its fear, partly: the thought that one of the most powerful man in the world can lie, and lie, and how his policies are now impacting on the very poor, a bizarre feeling of "Alice through the looking glass' where nothing it what is seems....

currently I dont know if people realise, but he is in negotiation with our government about drug prices, and it may put 10% on many of our regular meds, costing the NHS an unbelievable amount
Its one of those deals that would disadvantage us strongly if we don't take it in other areas, Hobsons choice.

GG pleeeese, don't ask us to listen to him!
I can no longer listen to his baby, whiny, incoherent ramblings.
I just have to rely on reports of them.

Oreo

Wyllow3

I don't think there is anything wrong with you, Galaxy I accept you have very strong views and it will always be so and will give you a strong POV on many subjects in N and P?

And you don’t have strong views?

I have strong views as you do, yes.

The context was Galaxy herself said that one area of particular issue does affect how she sees all matters and I accept that totally, its her right.

Has anyone watched the speech in its entirety?

If so how can you not be angry at our national broadcaster?

"They doctored my very good, perfect speech" said Trump.
Deluded man but wrong of the BBC to mess up his 'perfect speech'.

The BBC have got themselves into a mess with Tim Davie taking on the whole responsibility with no deputy.
I agree that some serious mistakes have been made and not dealt with.
The gender issue did annoy me but I'm dubious about bias in other reporting.
This is an opportunity to scrutinise all news outlets as there is undoubtedly bias and doctoring going on elsewhere.

Wyllow3

I don't think there is anything wrong with you, Galaxy I accept you have very strong views and it will always be so and will give you a strong POV on many subjects in N and P?

And you don’t have strong views?

Wyllow3

Hmmmmm.

I get the feeling your feathers have just been ruffled too, as truths are revealed

And its only just been coming out now

as a result of and O/P

that has a go at The BBC and declares herself "shocked"

but alludes to GB news ?

What a bizarre comment 🤔
Why on earth should my feathers be ruffled? What truths?
I couldn’t care less if GB News or any other media outlets get their knuckles rapped if they transgress, but there are def some feathers ruffled on this thread by those who seem angry that the BBC is getting some flak over their behaviour.
I do know why of course… it’s the subject matter of Trump and Israel.Somehow bias and unethical reporting don’t matter to them because of this.If it was about Biden and Gaza they’d feel very differently.Forget the subject matter it’s about truthful reporting which we trust the BBC to do more than any other news outlets.Tim Davie had to go.

My reaction was "good for The BBC for reporting it" fwiw.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you, Galaxy I accept you have very strong views and it will always be so and will give you a strong POV on many subjects in N and P?

What is wrong with me because I question issues relating to the BBC? To answer your questions - articles relating to royals and farming doesn't mean I don't have expectations on the BBC functioning as an unbiased source of information rather than a tool for activists. Oh and as I now view the BBC as influenced by misogynists, I would not be interested in their reports on women in Afghanistan, and that is the problem with what they have done.

1am, end of the R4 night.

The fishing forecast, beloved of so many years and serving an important community.

God Save the King - played every night.

News - (world news, of course, as to flips to world service.
Donald Trump thanks the BBC for the truth. (oh the irony, but we'll leave that now
Women in Afghanistan - more grim news

6am will open for farmers.

What is wrong with some of you?

This is our BBC, serving us for so many years.

Lies and manipulation of facts. Isn’t that Trump’s superpower?

Hmmmmm.

I get the feeling your feathers have just been ruffled too, as truths are revealed

And its only just been coming out now

as a result of and O/P

that has a go at The BBC and declares herself "shocked"

but alludes to GB news ?

I get the distinct feeling that a few posters are ruffled by the BBC having its knuckles rapped.

Ofcom have repeatedly checked out GBNews Wyllow but nothing untoward (or racist) has been found

This is not true FGT. See below from ChatGPT:

At least four Ofcom breach findings / sanction decisions against GB News remain on the public record (i.e. still upheld / not withdrawn as of 13 Mar 2025). Those are:

1.Mark Steyn — broadcast 21 April 2022 — Ofcom found this edition in breach (materially misleading / accuracy concerns). 
2.Mark Steyn (interview with Naomi Wolf) — broadcast 4 October 2022 — Ofcom found this edition in breach (harmful / potentially affecting health choices). 

3.The Live Desk — (decision published 18 Dec 2023) — Ofcom found this programme in breach of due-impartiality rules. 

4.People’s Forum: The Prime Minister — broadcast 12 Feb 2024 — Ofcom imposed a £100,000 statutory fine (sanction decision published 31 Oct 2024) for breaching the special impartiality requirements. 

But dont expect it to appear in the Telegraph, FGT?

And actually Ofcom HAVE checked them out recently and reported a breach of code.

Read about it if you dont believe me.

goodlawproject.org/update/ofcom-finds-gb-news-in-breach-of-code/

Read this, then.

cfmm.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/CfMM-GB-News-Report-2024.pdf

Wyllow3

👏👏 hear, hear, Foxie.

I await resignations from GB news for Racism: and any newspaper who has consistently and deliberately used half quotes to twist the meaning into something totally different to act accordingly.

Ofcom have repeatedly checked out GBNews Wyllow but nothing untoward (or racist) has been found.

Of course other media should be held accountable. Why not?

The Public Purposes
5. The BBC’s Mission.
The Mission of the BBC is to act in the public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.
6 The Public Purposes of the BBC are as follows.
(1) To provide impartial news and information to help people understand and engage with the world around them: the BBC should provide duly accurate and impartial news, current affairs and factual programming to build people’s understanding of all parts of the United Kingdom and of the wider world. Its content should be provided to the highest editorial standards.
From the Royal Charter.

I gather Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have gone.
They have not guarded the BBC's reputation for impartiality.

What other commercial stations have done is of no account in this issue.

👏👏 hear, hear, Foxie.

I await resignations from GB news for Racism: and any newspaper who has consistently and deliberately used half quotes to twist the meaning into something totally different to act accordingly.

Tim Davie and the Head of News, Deborah Turness, have resigned. This tells me that the BBC, despite it's lapses, is a trusted newscaster. Many of it's journalists were calling for these resignations because like many of us on here, they want an unbiased and trusted source of news. I don't think that can be said of many other news media.