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The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Nov-25 15:59:17

Whereas, one can choose which newspaper one buys.
You can tell this ‘edit’ manipulation of what Trump said/HAMAS propaganda etc wasn’t done by GBNews!

Shocked?
I am.

Galaxy Sat 08-Nov-25 11:56:11

The concerns covered Trump, race, middle east, and the gender debate. It just happens that as he is president of the USA lots of the attention focussed on the trump issue, but it actually covers a range of issues.

AGAA4 Sat 08-Nov-25 11:55:38

Anything Katherine Leavitte has to say I take with a huge pinch of salt.

I don't think anyone has said that lying in the press is acceptable.
Lying by anyone is not acceptable but we hear lies every day from politicians but have to hope our news is honestly given.
I am disappointed in the BBC but don't believe as some do that all their news is lies. There are some excellent reporters working for the BBC.

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 11:51:56

I don’t think there’s many fans of Trump on here, but this concern about the BBC isn’t just about him.

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 11:38:46

Yes, it happened

Yes its wrong

Yes it will be addressed and the thread invites us to say "how"

Yes it happens in a lot of the media, and must be addressed by this in any media outlet it occurs in by its owners/managers

Particularly, I have to say, the use of partial quotes which are very widely used particularly in the Red Tops

(Plus Actual Fabrication
Racism, which is not legal)

As regards Trumps, his actual lies should equally be addressed by all the media when there is a news item about him. After all, he is POTUS, one of the most powerful men in the world, and must be scrutinised.

Ask, does your favoured news outlet do "Reality Checks" on Trump? Ask yourself

ronib Sat 08-Nov-25 10:54:11

I used to smile when Trump first used the term ‘fake news’. Now it’s not so funny….
Great post eazybee

eazybee Sat 08-Nov-25 10:40:52

So, this morning a lecture from Karoline Leavitt, President's Trump's press secretary.
Accusations: 'This purposefully dishonestly, selectively edited clip by the BBC is further evidence that they are total, 100 percent fake news.'
And the response is?

The BBC is not 100 percent fake news, but with this clear example of selective editing that is at present totally ignored by Tim Davie, it is difficult to defend.

I note the latest attempt at deflection is that this is an orchestrated campaign by the Daily Telegraph.

The point is, the evidence is there, deny it as much as you like.
The fact that so many posters on here are apparently happy to defend lies from a public institution is deeply concerning.

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:39:31

Well of course, FGT, that goes without saying, I don't think anyone would disagree with you about aggression of that sort!

I also think that to focus on this is a bit "look at the Squirrel". Your O/P has nothing to do with trans issues and trying to interrupt my narrative of GB new's anti Muslim rhetoric

as you have praised them.

I suggest we focus firmly on the main points, what do we do in the media when something very untoward occurs, who is to be held responsible, and what should be done

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:18:44

Wyllow3

It happened everywhere, didn't it? I recall so very well its growth and development.

I think its a social/historical phenomenon we can look back on and ask,

"why did something really, really good that begun with gay rights turn into an extreme gender related situation"

Because men in frocks who are strident activists don’t want to be told ‘no’. Their innate testosterone fires them up into what amounts to a form of bullying. In my opinion.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:17:08

Galaxy

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:16:47

Thank you. That issue has been divisive in the most unexpected ways.

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 10:16:33

Am very sure that the posters dismissing this matter would sing a different tune if the deception and bias was about a politician they liked, was bias against Palestinians and something they cared more about than trans concerns.
Put aside the subject matter and think about what’s important…
Truth and fairness in reporting.

Galaxy Sat 08-Nov-25 10:14:41

Yes. That was to Maremia🙂

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:13:26

That was to Galaxy

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:12:28

Is that because of the 'gender' issues?

AGAA4 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:12:22

Very interesting Grantanow.

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 10:11:10

Forget the OP for heaven’s sake, this matter with the BBC is very important
The letter of condemnation was from the ethics and standards whistleblower and needs addressing PDQ.
Nobody expects GB News to have the standards that the BBC does and neither do we pay a hefty amount for GB News every year.
The BBC used to be a watchword for fair, true and ethical reporting and obvs no longer can be regarded that way.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:11:01

As I have said on another Thread, the OP is an invitation not a command.

Galaxy Sat 08-Nov-25 10:10:20

The people I can see raising the most concerns about the BBC are left wing feminists, now my social media feeds will be weighted towards that group, but under no circumstances are they Tories.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:09:27

Yes Wyllow, and it is the GN way to expand the discussion as we wish.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:08:22

May I commend that any Poster ,who is dubious about Tory interference, have a read at this morning's The Guardian online.

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:07:55

correct, should read *Anti-Muslim details.

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:05:32

Its so petty, AGAA4, faced with the horrifying actuality of the report!

What I suggest, Primrose, is that you read the report and if you would care to comment on the long list of anti-muslim denials anything - you think is exaggerated, or untrue, please.

We cannot possibly only examine the BBC just because the O/P wanted to have a go at it specifically

Any look at one part of the media has to look at the climate of the media as a whole we are operating in

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 10:05:07

Grantanow

I worry more about stories in some of the daily newspapers than I do about the BBC. It looks a bit like a Tory press campaign against the Beeb and that's nothing new. The BBC Charter is coming up for renewal and the anti-Beeb action usually starts ahead of that. Whatever it's faults the BBC is worth cherishing (along with the rather marginal Channel 4 News).

Are you serious?
Why don’t you google this matter and you’ll see what comes up about it!
It’s nothing to do with the Tories.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 10:03:05

Agree with that AGAA4, was posting same time as you.
Now that is interesting Grantanow...about the timing.

I imagine the BBC commissioning editor and whoever signed off on the legal due diligence will be having a busy weekend.

Homestead62 Sat 08-Nov-25 10:01:56

I hardly watch the BBC, haven't seen a thing on it about either the Darlington nurses case or the court case for the bottle return fiasco in Scotland. We get plenty of adverts for Strictly and Traitors but to me that's not news. They are also so biased, they sicken me. I do watch a variety of other sources and carefully fact check.