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The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

(284 Posts)
FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Nov-25 15:59:17

Whereas, one can choose which newspaper one buys.
You can tell this ‘edit’ manipulation of what Trump said/HAMAS propaganda etc wasn’t done by GBNews!

Shocked?
I am.

Galaxy Sat 08-Nov-25 07:34:07

The concerns were aired by a whistleblower, they cover a range of issues from Trump, to gender, to the war in Gaza, it is just that the Trump story has received most attention.

Maremia Sat 08-Nov-25 07:25:32

Has anyone found out if the disputed content was produced by an in-house BBC team or a commissioned independent company?

foxie48 Sat 08-Nov-25 06:54:59

Interesting though that so many accept the lies and manipulation of the truth by Trump as just Trump being Trump. I've listened to Leavitt, the white house press secretary tell the world bare faced lies without a single challenge. Why, because Trump bans the press who challenge him from the White House! He is silencing criticism and oversight which is a cornerstone of democracy. Despite some lapses recently I'd still say that the BBC is less biased than most media sources and the outrage about this latest event proof that we still hold it to account unlike most other news sources.

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 21:20:10

Thanks for your response Galaxy.
Wonder if anyone else will?

Galaxy Fri 07-Nov-25 21:18:04

Why would anyone criticise Trump lies and excuse/minimise the lies of the BBC. You would do both yes?

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 21:17:12

Do Posters here who condemn the lies of the BBC, also condemn the lies of Trump?

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 21:14:55

Why would you only condemn the lies of the BBC and heap praise on Trump?
If you were unbiased, you would do both yes?

Galaxy Fri 07-Nov-25 20:22:49

The reverse is also true though isn't it, why would you worry about the lies of anyone if you accept the lies of the BBC.

Primrose53 Fri 07-Nov-25 20:12:26

LauraNorderr

Our opinion of Trump is irrelevant.
The point is that our national treasure and much trusted and respected BBC has shown itself to be unworthy of our trust and respect.
Add to the latest scandals the Martin Bashir dishonesty setting up the late Princess Diana prior to the Panorama interview.
Time the licence fee was scrapped.

Then there was Huw Edwards. 🤮

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Nov-25 19:43:47

this is all stupid.

you have to pay the licence fee to watch all news channels live, including GB news

You aren't just paying for the BBC, you are paying for the actual broadcasting "platform for all Freeview.

sigh.

I think the Beeb is great, actually. Its wonderful radio channels especially are envied all over the world

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 19:28:48

Perhaps Posters aren't actually 'condoning ' lies, but calling out the bias of folk who are happy to call out the BBC, and then hail Trump as a hero?

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 19:24:45

So, how many did they get 'wrong'?

eazybee Fri 07-Nov-25 19:12:14

Yes Maremia it does wipe out the position of trust the BBC purportedly held, as being impartial and honest and telling the truth.
What shocks me more is that so many people on here seem to condone the deliberate telling of lies, the of altering of recordings to make an even better story, and posit the belief that Trump is so bad telling a lie about him won't make any difference.

The concern is that the people fabricating the lies are those in a position of trust, and they have abused it.

"What is truth, said jesting Pilate, and walked away."

Pantglas2 Fri 07-Nov-25 18:43:51

Maremia

And one 'wrong' broadcast wipes that out?

One? Check Petra’s post yesterday and LauraNorder latest post!

AGAA4 Fri 07-Nov-25 18:41:42

You can't tar all the reporters with the same brush. If there are dodgy ones at the BBC there are dodgy ones everywhere

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 18:32:47

And one 'wrong' broadcast wipes that out?

Oreo Fri 07-Nov-25 17:34:05

I think you need to read the report about the BBC before commenting.
The BBC used to be renowned for true, fair and ethical reporting.

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 17:31:09

Yes, what is reported should reflect reality in every form and format of MSM.
Not just the BBC.
Yes, the BBC is the original focus, but if Posters wish to expand the discussion, expecting a condemnation of all lying, fake news etc, not just the BBC, then that is a common acceptable practice on GN threads.
To simply condemned the BBC, wouldn't that demonstrate a bias, however unconscious?

LauraNorderr Fri 07-Nov-25 17:20:03

Our opinion of Trump is irrelevant.
The point is that our national treasure and much trusted and respected BBC has shown itself to be unworthy of our trust and respect.
Add to the latest scandals the Martin Bashir dishonesty setting up the late Princess Diana prior to the Panorama interview.
Time the licence fee was scrapped.

Lathyrus3 Fri 07-Nov-25 16:39:13

Totally regardless of what the manipulation was.

Lathyrus3 Fri 07-Nov-25 16:37:25

I admit I don’t actually know what the spliced sentence was but I think it’s important that what’s reported should be as accurate as possible and that the BBC should a trusted news source.

I don’t understand a mentality that is happy with news manipulation.

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 16:12:05

What was the bias the poster was highlighting?
Thought it was about using Trump's actual own words incorrectly, you know those words, sentences he actually used to NOT stop the uprising?
I have missed the bit about bias.

Oreo Fri 07-Nov-25 16:03:24

Oh let’s not bother our heads about it , a bit of deception here and outright bias there and we don’t like Trump or Israel anyway so it’s alright.
#yesIambeingsarcastic

Maremia Fri 07-Nov-25 15:59:59

To be honest...shocked?
Much, much more shocked by what Trump is allowing to happen to the ordinary people of the USA.

Skodadoda Fri 07-Nov-25 14:48:26

MayBee70

People died that day. And Trump has let the perpetrators out of prison. So, to be honest, I don’t think anyone should defend him over this. He could have stopped it happening and he didn’t. Nothing about his character or anything he has done since makes me think he didn’t want it to happen.

That’s just what I was going to say. News stories often have bits spliced together to make use of the time available. Trump’s words encouraged the violence. He then pardoned all the perpetrators when he became President.