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BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

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Primrose53 Sun 09-Nov-25 07:49:14

And so they should! Had any other TV channel done this they would have been closed down. The truth will out.

The BBC have got away with so much over the years and have always been biased and many would say, corrupt. Martin Bashir, Jimmy Savile, Huw Edwards etc

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bbc-boris-johnson-nick-robinson-caroline-dinenage-trump-b2861548.html#

GrannyGravy13 Sun 16-Nov-25 12:47:31

IOMGran

Gravy, everything is edited as things have to fit into a time slot. It's pretty foolish to expect everything to be broadcast in it's entirety. You can freely access Trumps speech in full if you want. Here's a transcript for you. He's unhinged and inciting a riot.

www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

I have heard the speech in full, thank you.

I am aware that editing goes on.

Whether we like it or not the editing did change his speech.

I am neither a fan of POTUS Trump, nor do I wish to see the end of the BBC.

I hope that his claim gets thrown out of court.

MaizieD Sun 16-Nov-25 12:54:04

Even US news media edit his speeches...

Allira Sun 16-Nov-25 13:33:33

Good editing keeps the meaning absolutely clear.

Maremia Sun 16-Nov-25 13:49:33

Yes, Allira...and the question is, did he mean to encourage the insurrection?

Magenta8 Sun 16-Nov-25 14:34:38

I would hate it if Trump sued the BBC out of existence. The BBC led the world in the development of broadcasting.

I am not saying that mistakes haven't been made. The BBC does not have an unblemished record free from bias and scandal but is it really possible that a mad megalomaniac like Trump can destroy the BBC? I hope not.

BBC broadcasting has been part of life in the UK and shaped our culture in wartime and peacetime for over 100 years.

Galaxy Sun 16-Nov-25 14:48:01

The BBC will have brought about its own downfall, I suspect Trump will not go ahead, but I think whatever happens, this is the beginning of the end of the BBC in its current format.

David49 Sun 16-Nov-25 15:00:21

IOMGran

Gravy, everything is edited as things have to fit into a time slot. It's pretty foolish to expect everything to be broadcast in it's entirety. You can freely access Trumps speech in full if you want. Here's a transcript for you. He's unhinged and inciting a riot.

www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

So the slot is more important than accuracy, I think not

I think most of us on GN have a negative view of Trump, I certainly do, but he is an a position of power we can’t break off contact so we have to play along with him.

One horrible thought bugs me, if somehow Trump gets impeached we get Vance instead, which is not a great option.

Maremia Sun 16-Nov-25 15:19:40

Vance does not seem to have the same 'charisma' as Trump.
Republicans probably aren't as scared of him, nasty though he is.
Does the MAGA mob love him in the same way?
The real question is, do bullies back off, when you bully back?

AGAA4 Sun 16-Nov-25 15:23:39

Vance gives me the creeps. There is something deeply unpleasant about him.

Oreo Sun 16-Nov-25 15:53:42

He’s worse than Trump.

IOMGran Sun 16-Nov-25 18:42:10

Vance is a massive danger to sofas everywhere.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 17-Nov-25 10:46:35

So the man who started off James Donald Bowman has, as I understand it changed his name three times. It seems he is also prepared to change his politics just as often.

Allira Mon 17-Nov-25 12:31:21

DaisyAnneReturns

So the man who started off James Donald Bowman has, as I understand it changed his name three times. It seems he is also prepared to change his politics just as often.

I think his name was changed due to his family history, from his original name to his step-father's name when he was adopted by him then, after his mother and step-father's divorce, chose Vance after his grandparents.

It seems to have been rather an unstable upbringing until his grandparents became his carers.

ronib Mon 17-Nov-25 13:23:35

I didn’t think for a minute that J D Vance had such a dysfunctional family upbringing. Perhaps it’s only America with opportunities for such huge upward mobility?

TerriBull Mon 17-Nov-25 13:45:12

Aside from the Trump Spliced/speech debacle, there was an article in yesterday's ST entitled "Emails reveal BBC Women Complained over trans reporting" highlighting the BBC's hard line approach to the subject mostly at odds with the mood of women generally about the issue and certainly, I imagine, their stance wouldn't be a surprise to many on this site.

Some of the main points:

"Martine Croxall had been found to have breached impartiality guidelines when she appeared faintly exasperated after correcting "pregnant people" on her autocue to "women".

That it was felt that the BBC had been "captured" by activists promoting a "pro trans agenda" to the detriment of women's rights is one of the criticisms in the memo that helped precipitate the resignations of Davie and his news chief executive Deborah Turness. In this document sent to the BBC board last month, Michael Prescott former journalist claimed that the specialist "LGBT and identity" desk had effectively censored stories that "raised difficult questions about the trans debate" He accused the desk of "a constant drip feed of one sided stories.....celebrating trans experience without adequate balance or objectivity" Women within the BBC have been making that case for several years. More than a dozen emails dating back to 2020 seen by the ST show that female staff raised a catalogue of complaints with executives that were rebuffed or ignored. Their objections ranged from stories that referred to biologically male transgender sex offenders as women to articles that avoided using the words "girls" and "women" when discussing menstruation and birth control. The women also described a culture of fear where even seasoned correspondents did not dare veer from the Stonewall-mandated position on trans issues in case they were accused of "transphobia". They added that the BBC ignored stories that could be deemed critical of the trans gender movement, even when they were covered by rival news outlets. One BBC worker said: "Any questioning or insufficiently enthusiastic championing risked being labelled as bigoted.....It felt like activism, not news" The article went on to state "Samantha Smith a former editor of the southwest edition of Inside Out spoke up about the reporting of Karen White, a prisoner who was biologically male, but identified as transgender and sexually assaulted two inmates at a women's prison. Smith who left the BBC in 2020 felt that the broadcaster should have reported that White was a man but when she raised this in a meeting of senior managers was told: "Trans women are women" She felt that the undercurrent of this statement was that she was a "bigot" who needed to be "re-educated" However, the article does go on to suggest that there has been a shift in a more sympathetic stance towards women in an interview with the Darlington nurses who were protesting against a transgender colleague's use of their changing rooms. It described the colleague as a "biological male" a significant linguistic change.

Casdon Mon 17-Nov-25 13:48:24

ronib

I didn’t think for a minute that J D Vance had such a dysfunctional family upbringing. Perhaps it’s only America with opportunities for such huge upward mobility?

No, it’s Narnia.

ronib Mon 17-Nov-25 14:37:47

Well I bet Narnia isn’t coming to the Uk? Casdon

ronib Mon 17-Nov-25 14:40:26

On second thoughts we’re in White Witch mode?

Maremia Mon 17-Nov-25 16:06:52

Now, for those of you you are expressing disgust at the 'BBC' edit, please do not watch the Saturday Night Live version.
So rude.

Oreo Mon 17-Nov-25 16:58:41

Thanks TerriBull for that report of the transactivism within the BBC, and it isn’t a surprise!It was going that stupid way for a long time.

Galaxy Mon 17-Nov-25 17:01:39

I know they aren't the only ones but how on earth did they fall for that ideology.

AGAA4 Mon 17-Nov-25 18:24:39

The NHS, Starmer and others all complicit in agreeing with the TRAs.
Wording was changed to try placate them. Chest feeding. People who bleed. Birth givers.
What a lot of nonsense all these people fell for.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 17-Nov-25 18:39:16

I do think there is a lack of patriotism where the British Trunp supporters are concerned. The company we are talking about is the BRITISH Broadcasting Company. It certainly needs to adhere to English law but it did not broadcast this programme in America. If other American companies did he can go after them in California and loose just as he has lost other cases.

Why do you support our current arch enemy? Someone who wants to subjugate his own people and ours?

Galaxy Mon 17-Nov-25 18:40:17

Not supporting the BBC isn't supporting Trump, they are different things.

Casdon Mon 17-Nov-25 18:52:23

Different, but related, things. More people who want to abolish the BBC support Trump than people who don’t. Not supporting the actions of the BBC on this particular issue is common to most people, but supporting Trump’s actions in suing is a subset of that.