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BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

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Primrose53 Sun 09-Nov-25 07:49:14

And so they should! Had any other TV channel done this they would have been closed down. The truth will out.

The BBC have got away with so much over the years and have always been biased and many would say, corrupt. Martin Bashir, Jimmy Savile, Huw Edwards etc

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bbc-boris-johnson-nick-robinson-caroline-dinenage-trump-b2861548.html#

fancythat Mon 10-Nov-25 19:54:39

fancythat

LemonJam
The BBC is supposed to be the nation's channel.
Any other is not.

I weirdly feel like Trump is threatening to sue us.
Maybe I am overthinking, and out of step.

Primrose53 Mon 10-Nov-25 20:01:11

LemonJam

Yes have watched GB news Primrose53.

Good. Then you will know that they have a very wide range of guests and everybody gets a fair crack of the whip. The BBC only invite people who share their views. They report on people they don’t like and make digs at them but never invite them on. The BBC has always been biased and now it’s clear for all to see and without doubt.

MaizieD Mon 10-Nov-25 20:30:22

There is no doubt that The BBC edited the 70 minute speech in question

That is not true. The BBC didn't have anything to do with the editing of the speech. The editing was done by the independent production company which produced the documentary. The BBC were at fault to let it go on air containing this edit, but it wasn't the BBC that did it.

Your post is thorough and well argued, LemonJam but it seems ironic that defenders of the BBC are getting this small, but, IMO, significant fact wrong.

MaizieD Mon 10-Nov-25 20:35:44

Primrose53

LemonJam

Yes have watched GB news Primrose53.

Good. Then you will know that they have a very wide range of guests and everybody gets a fair crack of the whip. The BBC only invite people who share their views. They report on people they don’t like and make digs at them but never invite them on. The BBC has always been biased and now it’s clear for all to see and without doubt.

I'm afraid that your claims about the BBC are not in the least bit convincing, Primrose. For example, I would suspect that a great many BBC personnel detest Farage, but he's trotted out by the BBC with wearying regularity.

With regard to GB News you are confusing popularity with probity.

LemonJam Mon 10-Nov-25 20:46:33

MaizieD- The BBC has apologised and taken accountability today for its “editing error” but I agree with you that the programme was actually made by an independent production company- so will rephrase “there is no doubt the BBC broadcasted the 70 minute speech as edited”.

Primrose53- I’m interested in your assertion that the BBC “only invite people who share their views” do you have any supportive evidence?

MayBee70 Mon 10-Nov-25 21:23:43

Panorama isn’t BBCNews though is it?

Iam64 Mon 10-Nov-25 21:40:12

Whitewavemark2

I re- watched the BBC edited speech by Trump.

I watched the whole of January 6th live, at the time, and the message I took from Trumps speech on the day, was exactly the same as the edited BBC piece, as did the murderous mob who caused mayhem and insurrection as Trumps behest.

All media from tv, radio to all newspapers edit. It’s what they do. At the time it was not questioned although people would be aware of the edit.

It was the message that was important in this instant which was “fight like hell”

It was shocking at the time and continues to be so, however much push back from the Trump supporters. History cannot easily be re-written, when it is so shocking as Jan 6th

Exactly

Anniebach Tue 11-Nov-25 06:30:11

The BBC cannot be relied of for truths

David49 Tue 11-Nov-25 07:05:14

It is a fact that the BBC has a liberal, leftist editorial policy, many on GN obviously agree with that. They do not just report the news they dramatize it and distort the facts just like they did with Trumps speech.
The BBC is very powerful we hear their view on political topics every day and it does influence society and attitudes, maybe that’s why so many are dissatisfied with UK today.

Mamie Tue 11-Nov-25 07:08:45

Anniebach

The BBC cannot be relied of for truths

In which case, who do you think can be relied on for the truth Anniebach?

Anniebach Tue 11-Nov-25 07:18:23

Quote Mamie Tue 11-Nov-25 07:08:45
Anniebach
The BBC cannot be relied of for truths

In which case, who do you think can be relied on for the truth Anniebach?

Thinking how we are fed lies daily Mamie I doubt anyone

nanna8 Tue 11-Nov-25 07:39:02

Probably that is why people turn to social media-

IOMGran Tue 11-Nov-25 07:51:11

I’ve been wondering when Trump and his supporters would turn the eye of Sauron to the BBC. I hear it was an independent production company that made the programme and it is unfortunate that the edit was allowed to go out - but this is all about the far right and their political agenda. Tbh Trump’s speech and his behaviour needs no editing.
The BBC is a fantastic organisation - one of the last bastions of any attempt to report the facts and investigate injustice. Mistakes happen and this needs to be addressed but that is for the BBC to deal with. I remember when Nadine Dorris was culture secretary - she wanted to end the BBC too. She’s now joined Reform.
In the states the Washington Post uncovered Watergate in the 70’s - and wasn’t afraid to challenge the most senior politicians of the day - but today it’s owned by Jeff Bezos - so that’s all changed.
We need the BBC - it’s a great British and national treasure.

IOMGran Tue 11-Nov-25 07:53:42

Whitewavemark2

Trump has threatened to sue ABC, CBS and the BBC amongst others.

It is what authoritarian leaders do to control information.

I have no doubt that the BBC will retract the panorama programme, and hopefully avoid a £1billion bill.

However, we must not allow a foreign leader to control our media output. Appeasement doesn’t sit well.

This $1 billion lawsuit is smoke and mirrors, it should be treated as such. It's just typical bullyboy tactics from the orange creep. Anyone who backs this foreigner against our own state is a traitor, simple as. They should leave and live in the USA.

IOMGran Tue 11-Nov-25 07:56:48

Oreo

IOMGran

So when will GB News be under the spotlight? Answers on a postcard Oreo. Like when Hell freezes over?

How should I know? Why be so aggressive? When they break guidelines I suppose.

I have already told you that Ofcom don't regard them as a News channel but an entertainment channel, despite them badges themselves as GB 'News'. Ofcom are useless as this enables GBNews to not be subject to the same guidelines and rules as the BBC is held to. It's not aggression, it's frustration with the fact that no one seems to be interested in these facts.

IOMGran Tue 11-Nov-25 07:58:05

Whitewavemark2

It was screened 3? Years ago.

Yes, hence the manufactured outrage now is obviously a part of a wider move to destroy our BBC. And too many are falling for it.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Nov-25 07:58:09

BBC have a responsibility to ensure that anything they broadcast is accurate. Theirs is the name on the tin

Several times lately it hasn’t been, including the Panorama episode.

Lathyrus3 Tue 11-Nov-25 08:10:27

The BBC has a charter.

It should follow the principles of the Charter.

What other news outlets do isn’t relevant. nor whether something the BBC broadcast was made by an independent company.

Back to basics.

Maremia Tue 11-Nov-25 08:15:04

I bet the commercial newspapers are just loving this.
If we were to get the same amount and variety of news output on all of the forms and formats that the BBC provides, how much would that cost?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Nov-25 08:15:24

IOMGran

Whitewavemark2

It was screened 3? Years ago.

Yes, hence the manufactured outrage now is obviously a part of a wider move to destroy our BBC. And too many are falling for it.

I do not want to destroy the BBC, I watch a lot of its content, it makes and broadcasts good quality entertainment.

I do want its news broadcasts and political coverage, including documentaries to be truthful.

As I have previously posted, if any speech, discussion, interview is edited it should be highlighted and a link to the full content given.

Maremia Tue 11-Nov-25 08:18:25

For all of the people who have critically viewed the original Trump speech and the Panorama version, have you also read what the Whistleblower's 'factual' account was?
Apparently he has not been completely 'truthful' in his version either. Was he also trying to spin the narrative to suit his accusation?
The plot thickens.

Maremia Tue 11-Nov-25 08:18:58

Agree with you there GG

AGAA4 Tue 11-Nov-25 08:21:45

Trump has threatened to sue the BBC but he is out of time as a prosecution has to be lodged within a year in the UK and the programme was aired over a year ago.
He can't do it in the US as the programme wasn't aired there.

It was a very stupid thing for the BBC to do so hope that with new people things like this won't happen again

Grandmabatty Tue 11-Nov-25 08:28:35

And David claims that it is a 'fact' of the political leanings of BBC despite offering no factual evidence to support his opinion.
No surprise there.

vintage1950 Tue 11-Nov-25 08:41:14

If the BBC invites only people who share its 'leftie' views, how come we have seen more of Reform than LibDem on its programmes recently, despite the fact that LibDem has ten times as many MPs as Reform?