The company Farage keeps....

theworriedwell

Oreo

Yes I think it was Naz Shah Bradford MP who made lots of antisemitic comments online wasn’t it?
As for the Farage accusers, I don’t think they’re acting together, more that they’re seeing other Dulwich boys from the past who are making comments in the news so they do too.Some of them will be remembering correctly and others maybe just getting in on the act, who knows? Farage was a teenager at the time and the times were very different to how they are now, so I make allowance for that.
Some body, or some group have been working very hard to dig up any dirt they can on him, possibly Labour activists as they are the ones suffering from Labour defectors to Reform among their voters.

Times were different but I don't remember it being acceptable to say Hitler missed one to Jewish people. Yes he was a teenager at the time but so were the Jewish boys, some of those boys might have had family members who were killed by Hitler. Imagine how they might have felt.

I don't cut him any slack.

I don't remember it being acceptable to say Hitler missed one to Jewish people

There's no way it was acceptable. I am slightly older than Nigel Farage. When I was at school there was some racism, but no one ever made Holocaust jokes.

Freya5

Skye17

Primrose53

With Farage we are talking about nearly 50 years ago! I kept old letters from boyfriends and some of the stuff they wrote at the time would be deemed racist now. These were well educated grammar school boys and college students but they thought those sort of jokes were funny then.

Old comedy series on TV now issue a warning at the beginning about offensive language etc which was acceptable at the time. Man About The House, Rising Damp, Love Thy Neighbour, Only Fools And Horses ….. all have these warnings.

I agree with eazybee why drag this up now. Obviously because Reform are doing much better than Labour.

Pointing out a Jewish classmate and saying 'There's one they missed' and adapting the song 'Bless 'em all' to 'Gas 'em all' isn't just any joke, is it? No one would have said that on TV in the 70s.

Also, an 18-year-old telling nine-year-olds in the playground 'Go back to Africa' is just bullying.

The reason the former classmates are coming forward now is that journalists have been looking into it more now – for whatever reasons – and the classmates don't like Farage denying true descriptions of the way he behaved. More than 20 have now come forward according to the Independent.
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I was considering voting Reform but there is no way I want someone like this to be Prime Minister. It wouldn't be so bad if he had admitted it and said he was wrong, but he is just lying.

Glad you takee at face value reports of what a child might have said 50 years ago. There have also been letters saying non of this happened. Who to believe. As the the biased BBC, there has been no apology only a warning of inappropriate language.
You do realise st lenny Henry also appeared with the black and white minstrals. No apology from him either.
I was called frog lip at school, so, ouldnt help it, and dad went to see the bully. Why didn't these kids parents, if that was the case. Not excusing racism, my neice was called a "chocolate drop",the offending child was taken to task by my daughter, and the bullies mother. So forgive me if I'm not ready to believe all I hear. Especially as Labour are running g scared .

Who to believe? The 20 people whose stories back each other up.

No one has written letters saying none of this happened. They have only said that they didn't see it happen. OK, they didn't happen to be there at the time.

I am more sceptical than the average person, and I was considering voting Reform, but not believing this story is unrealistic.

Oreo

Maybee70 you can relax as it’s highly unlikely Farage will ever become the PM.

He has the backing of some very rich people. Murdoch could make or break parties. So can Farages sponsors.

He was an 18 year old man. Why does he need allowances made for him. People younger than that go to prison. He needs to apologise not try to justify himself.

Nobody else has to make allowances for either Rayner or Farage and what they did at that young age, but I choose to.

A story is a story though. Much was made of Rayner’s childhood, and her having a child at 16, for which she was castigated in some circles. Farage was 16-18 when these allegations applied, so the same age - they are both fair game for the media, or there would be double standards.

Maybee70 you can relax as it’s highly unlikely Farage will ever become the PM.

Casdon

I don’t see the difference in journalists digging for this story, and journalists digging for stories about Angela Rayner, or Boris Johnson, for instance. If a story is there in somebody’s past, there will be somebody out there looking for it.

There isn’t any difference.
But if stories emerged about what Rayner said to kids in school or Boris Johnson as well, then I would say the same thing.Farage most def isn’t my cup of tea but he was still in school at the time so I make allowance as I would for Rayner or Johnson.

Oreo

We’re talking about who dug up this stuff about Farage at school, journalists or Labour activists, or Greens activists possibly.
Surely to goodness, for a man his age they could have dug up something relating to what he did as an actual man!
A lot of politicians may be worried about what they got up to in their school days now becoming front page news.

It isn’t new news. It’s been around for a long time but has largely been ignored. Maybe it’s resurfaced in a big way because so many people are now terrified of someone like Farage becoming PM of this country. ( I know I am…)

Oreo

Yes I think it was Naz Shah Bradford MP who made lots of antisemitic comments online wasn’t it?
As for the Farage accusers, I don’t think they’re acting together, more that they’re seeing other Dulwich boys from the past who are making comments in the news so they do too.Some of them will be remembering correctly and others maybe just getting in on the act, who knows? Farage was a teenager at the time and the times were very different to how they are now, so I make allowance for that.
Some body, or some group have been working very hard to dig up any dirt they can on him, possibly Labour activists as they are the ones suffering from Labour defectors to Reform among their voters.

Times were different but I don't remember it being acceptable to say Hitler missed one to Jewish people. Yes he was a teenager at the time but so were the Jewish boys, some of those boys might have had family members who were killed by Hitler. Imagine how they might have felt.

I don't cut him any slack.

I don’t see the difference in journalists digging for this story, and journalists digging for stories about Angela Rayner, or Boris Johnson, for instance. If a story is there in somebody’s past, there will be somebody out there looking for it.

We’re talking about who dug up this stuff about Farage at school, journalists or Labour activists, or Greens activists possibly.
Surely to goodness, for a man his age they could have dug up something relating to what he did as an actual man!
A lot of politicians may be worried about what they got up to in their school days now becoming front page news.

correction - the right, not the rich, line 3.

Oreo

Yes I think it was Naz Shah Bradford MP who made lots of antisemitic comments online wasn’t it?
As for the Farage accusers, I don’t think they’re acting together, more that they’re seeing other Dulwich boys from the past who are making comments in the news so they do too.Some of them will be remembering correctly and others maybe just getting in on the act, who knows? Farage was a teenager at the time and the times were very different to how they are now, so I make allowance for that.
Some body, or some group have been working very hard to dig up any dirt they can on him, possibly Labour activists as they are the ones suffering from Labour defectors to Reform among their voters.

Oh come on, Farage is hardly the only politician that the press have gone deep in to dig out the past.

Its pretty universal - the rich will go to great lengths to dig out the past of the left, so it is neither surprising nor unexpected that this stuff coming out about Farage is being investigated as far as possible.

In general, Fascism - it's anti semitism, its racism, its history of hostility to powerful women, to those with MH problems, gay people - needs to be called out more than most, with its grim history.

Lest we forget.

Oreo

I think having a family background of racism could go two ways depending on how weak willed a person is.
Many would absolutely hate it.

I'm not disagreeing. It can indeed go two ways. It's also possible that Farage learned his racism from an entirely different source.

I think having a family background of racism could go two ways depending on how weak willed a person is.
Many would absolutely hate it.

…and ‘assuming makes an ass of you or me’ another good thing to remember isn’t it?

Assuming a family history of racism is not unreasonable.

I had a friend who always said "Never assume anything"!
It's something I always remember and, of course, proof is required before a conclusion can be reached, although not infallible.

Allira

MaizieD

Allira

I don't know. Are you accusing his mother of being a deeply racist woman? 🤔 His father wasn't on the scene.

Sorry?

Where did nanna8 or I say anything about mothers?

You said:

I interpreted it as referring to Farage having had a horrendous (deeply racist) upbringing ...

He was brought up by his mother as his father had left the family.

I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for bringing it to my attention after jumping on me.

I'm not accusing his mother of being anything, of course, but motherhood doesn't automatically make one non racist (we've had plenty of posters on here talking about their racist mothers or MiLs).

Racist attitudes don't just suddenly take hold of an individual; they are formed over a period of time as a result of many influences (or influencers). Assuming a family history of racism is not unreasonable.

Yes I think it was Naz Shah Bradford MP who made lots of antisemitic comments online wasn’t it?
As for the Farage accusers, I don’t think they’re acting together, more that they’re seeing other Dulwich boys from the past who are making comments in the news so they do too.Some of them will be remembering correctly and others maybe just getting in on the act, who knows? Farage was a teenager at the time and the times were very different to how they are now, so I make allowance for that.
Some body, or some group have been working very hard to dig up any dirt they can on him, possibly Labour activists as they are the ones suffering from Labour defectors to Reform among their voters.

You know there is much more going on than the anti Farage ding dong. How many rascist Labour MPs are there, naz shah, the white van woman, anti smites, of which Muslim mps possibly will be. What concerns me more is the fascist tendencies of this Labour Gov. No jury trials, even though for shorter sentences, a playground for extreme left judges, compulsory ID cards, with a greater reach than any other countries have, free speech clamp down. I could go on but I feel I'm wasting my time, and I'm going out.

MaizieD

Allira

I don't know. Are you accusing his mother of being a deeply racist woman? 🤔 His father wasn't on the scene.

Sorry?

Where did nanna8 or I say anything about mothers?

You said:

I interpreted it as referring to Farage having had a horrendous (deeply racist) upbringing ...

He was brought up by his mother as his father had left the family.

Allira

I don't know. Are you accusing his mother of being a deeply racist woman? 🤔 His father wasn't on the scene.

Sorry?

Where did nanna8 or I say anything about mothers?

Maremia

And of course the donor is not expecting any favours, when Farage gets into power.

I’m sure he’s doing it because he wants to bring people out of poverty…

And of course the donor is not expecting any favours, when Farage gets into power.