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The company Farage keeps....

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Wyllow3 Sat 22-Nov-25 08:33:15

"The former leader of Reform UK in Wales has been sentenced to 10-and-a-half years in prison after admitting taking bribes for pro-Russia interviews and speeches.
Nathan Gill, 52, from Llangefni, Anglesey, is thought to have received up to £40,000 to help pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.
He was a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) when he accepted money from Oleg Voloshyn, 44, a man once described by the US government as a "pawn" of Russian secret services"

And I recall Farage et al collecting their generous wages as MEP's, doing nothing at all for our country, that moment when they, like petualnt small children, turned their backs on the EU parliament

Be very aware, we are all are defined by the company you keep, Farage. Many politicians accept gifts we ar not happy with, and som pilloried for pairs of glasses, but you, Farage, kept company with a Russian spy.

Farage is facing calls to investigate and root out links between Reform UK and Russia after one of his party’s former senior politicians was jailed for 10 years for accepting bribes from a pro-Kremlin agent.

Not a good week for Farage: he faces fresh claims of racism and antisemitism at school

read here:
www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2025/nov/18/deeply-shocking-nigel-farage-faces-fresh-claims-of-racism-and-antisemitism-at-school

"It is the hectoring tone, the “jeering quality”, in Nigel Farage’s voice today that brings it all back for Peter Ettedgui.

He would sidle up to me and growl: ‘Hitler was right,’ or ‘Gas them,’ sometimes adding a long hiss to simulate the sound of the gas showers,” Ettedgui says of his experience of being in a class with Farage at Dulwich college in south London

"My grandparents had escaped from Nazi Germany, and had always talked with deep gratitude about how they felt welcome in the UK,” he says.

*I’d never experienced antisemitism growing up, so the first time that this vicious verbal abuse came out of Farage’s mouth was deeply shocking.

But I wasn’t his only target.

I’d hear him calling other students ‘Paki’ or ‘Wog’, and urging them to ‘go home’.

I tried to ignore him, but it was humiliating. It was shaming. This kind of abuse cuts through to the core of your identity*

Casdon Tue 25-Nov-25 20:47:35

A master and at least 12 random former school mates of Farage, at an independent school, all Labour supporters who have it for Farage? Hmm.
This came to mind.
www.youtube.com/shorts/wUhN2X_pxEk

Primrose53 Tue 25-Nov-25 20:33:00

Whitewavemark2

Of course we do have a first hand witness statement in the form of a letter written by his form tutor.

It does not make pleasant reading.

I remember it from 2016 prior to Brexit.

There is also evidence apparently from others who say otherwise.

Primrose53 Tue 25-Nov-25 20:31:55

With Farage we are talking about nearly 50 years ago! I kept old letters from boyfriends and some of the stuff they wrote at the time would be deemed racist now. These were well educated grammar school boys and college students but they thought those sort of jokes were funny then.

Old comedy series on TV now issue a warning at the beginning about offensive language etc which was acceptable at the time. Man About The House, Rising Damp, Love Thy Neighbour, Only Fools And Horses ….. all have these warnings.

I agree with eazybee why drag this up now. Obviously because Reform are doing much better than Labour.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Nov-25 20:27:07

Of course we do have a first hand witness statement in the form of a letter written by his form tutor.

It does not make pleasant reading.

I remember it from 2016 prior to Brexit.

Wyllow3 Tue 25-Nov-25 18:43:16

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dny3r3vyo

Wyllow3 Tue 25-Nov-25 18:42:47

Well the Beeb hasn't given up. today the Jewish classmate who reported Farage has formally responded.

this should not be ignored. Farage's denials make it far far worse. Anyone who opposes anti-semitism should be very, very angry, and I call on gransdnetters who support Farage to answer to this - do they not think it significant or is Farage to be "forgiven?

"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2dny3r3vyo

"A Jewish former classmate of Nigel Farage has told the BBC the Reform UK leader is being "fundamentally dishonest" by suggesting former pupils who say they witnessed his racism are not telling the truth.
Peter Ettedgui said Farage had repeatedly told him "Hitler was right" and "gas them" when they were teenagers at Dulwich College, in London.

On Monday, Farage said he had "never directly racially abused anybody" after claims by former Dulwich College pupils, including Mr Ettedgui, that were first reported in The Guardian, external

Mr Ettedgui said Farage's claim that those making allegations about his past behaviour were not telling the truth had left him "really angry".

One of the most vivid memories of my school life is Farage repeatedly coming up to me and, knowing that I was Jewish, saying Hitler was right and 'gas 'em', and that was frequently followed by a 'sssss', you know, kind of imitating the sound of escaping gas

"That's my abiding memory of him, and that sort of verbal abuse happened quite consistently over the year that we were together in the same class.
"And it was pretty vicious, it was pretty nasty, it was absolutely directed in a very personal way at me."

He said Farage's words had "hit hard" because his grandparents had escaped Nazi Germany and much of their family had perished in the Holocaust
It wasn't the normal sort of vaguely antisemitic banter that you might encounter in the school grounds at that time in the 1970s. It was much worse," he added

Asked how he could be sure that his memory was correct, given that the events he describes happened many decades ago, Mr Ettedgui said:
I think anyone who suffers any kind of abuse, it's going to mark their lives

Maremia Tue 25-Nov-25 07:58:54

Now he is saying that he didn't mean to hurt anyone.
Hope they keep digging, and investigating and then charging.

Wyllow3 Mon 24-Nov-25 23:00:29

On the Beeb news tonight: Farage denies all - hence calling those who have testified as lying. but I believe the then young Jewish boy who got remarks about gas chambers and so on.

MaizieD Sat 22-Nov-25 13:13:34

keepingquiet said The time is right for an investigation and review into the whole Brexit debacle.

So I pulled up the Russia Report' the one that Johnson delayed releasing to the public until after we had left the EU.

It talks a lot about Russian influence on social media but as far as interference in elections and referendums (because Russian influence/interference was claimed after the Scottish independence referendum, too) it had this to say, (after noting that 'the intelligence community appeared to exercise extreme caution amongst the intelligence and security Agencies at the thought that they might have any role in relation to the UK’s democratic processes, and particularly one as contentious as the EU referendum.)

The written evidence provided to us appeared to suggest that HMG had not seen or sought evidence of successful interference in UK democratic processes or any activity that has had a material impact on an election, for example influencing results.

In other words, our intelligence agencies found no evidence of Russian interference in the EU referendum because they didn't look for any. Though you can see from the previous part of the report that they seem to have found lots of interference in general terms.

Link to the Russia report:

isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/CCS207_CCS0221966010-001_Russia-Report-v02-Web_Accessible.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Whitewavemark2 Sat 22-Nov-25 12:40:35

I suspect though, that Farage/reform supporters will see any investigation etc as being politically motivated, and false just as MAGA did over the investigation of Trump, which he was able to evade because of his position.

It is a weird phenomenon.

LizzieDrip Sat 22-Nov-25 12:31:02

Interesting, from ChatGPT:

“ Crypto-Related Allegations

•One of Farage’s major donors, Christopher Harborne, is a significant early investor in the Tether stablecoin. 

•British investigators (the NCA) say that some of that cryptocurrency was used in sanctions evasion and money-laundering that benefitted Russian state or pro-Russian actors. 

•But there is no direct evidence (at least publicly) that Harborne donated Kremlin money to Farage; rather, part of his wealth is tied into crypto that may have been used by bad actors.”

ChatGPT summary is that there are “enough red flags” around Reform funding to “merit serious concern and further scrutiny”.

Grantanow Sat 22-Nov-25 11:46:50

In my opinion the Reform Party should be investigated by the Security Services.

eazybee Sat 22-Nov-25 11:43:09

Yes it is considering the problems he should be facing in his own country and his excessive number of trips abroad.
A deputy should have been sent in his place.

But so much better to divert attention from his shortcomings by resurrecting historic concerns about Farage, who poses a huge threat to Labour.

LizzieDrip Sat 22-Nov-25 11:02:54

eazybee

Rather more important to have a deep and forensic examination of what exactly Keir Starmer is doing, at present.

He’s representing the UK at the G20 summit … a forum of the largest economies in the world that meets regularly to discuss the most pressing issues facing the global economy.

Is that a problem?

Mamie Sat 22-Nov-25 10:55:50

LadyGracie

And the company Starmer is keeping….

At the G20? What kind of event did you think it was? 😂😂😂

Cold Sat 22-Nov-25 10:46:48

Wyllow3

Farage comes across as a bitter, unhappy young man, having to hit out at the vulnerable in the nastiest of ways possible - gas chambers, fgs.

Leopards don't change their spots, however well concealed in later life.

Its a "yes" to an investigation of links with Russia in UKIP times.

The abuse of Jewish students at his posh private school was really shocking - the gas chambers/singing of Nazi songs. It shows that his behaviour is a longstanding part of his character. This was really disgusting in the late 70s/early 80s.

But Farage has always struck me as a clever and charming charlatan/chameleon - he hops onto the latest bandwagon oozing charm and sincerity
- Brexit - the Europeans are the problem - get them out (while ensuring his own kids had EU passports) - where did the money he promised us go?
- Forming Reform as a private company rather than political party with himself as major shareholder
- Migrants - get them out
- become MP for Clacton but then declaring he cant go there - but spends his time in the US with Trump
- Dressing up in tweeds to go to on the farmers' march because he has invested millions in land

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Babs03 Sat 22-Nov-25 10:33:55

Well you could start another thread on that.

LadyGracie Sat 22-Nov-25 10:32:08

And the company Starmer is keeping….

eazybee Sat 22-Nov-25 10:26:38

Rather more important to have a deep and forensic examination of what exactly Keir Starmer is doing, at present.

madeleine45 Sat 22-Nov-25 10:26:37

Farage is shown up again for what he is and the company he keeps. It is quite sickening to think that anybody would actually want him in no 10.

Babs03 Sat 22-Nov-25 10:22:36

Maremia

Time to have a deep forensic examination of who is actually funding, and hence controlling, the Reform Party.

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Babs03 Sat 22-Nov-25 10:16:58

Putin is a very happy bunny. He was thrilled when the UK broke away from the EU, fragmenting this bloc is something both he and Trump want because picking off weaker countries rather taking on the EU is much more preferable. So would make complete sense for both Farage and Trump to have allegiances with Putin.
But this does risk making the UK less secure and fly in the face of Farage’s promise to win back our sovereignty which he may have sold already to Russia.

LizzieDrip Sat 22-Nov-25 10:12:31

Maremia

Time to have a deep forensic examination of who is actually funding, and hence controlling, the Reform Party.

Hear, hear👏👏👏

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Nov-25 10:03:15

I meant when he was the young lad that said all those things, Bluebelle, to in the present. Was trying to imagine him then, and asking, "why"

I have had an email from Open Britain which says it all very well imo

"It’s a political scandal of rare magnitude, and a warning for anyone still under the illusion that foreign interference is a fringe problem rather than a growing threat embedded deep in our politics.

Gill has admitted he took cash from pro-Russian Ukrainian politician Oleg Voloshyn, a man plugged directly into Putin’s inner circle, in exchange for pushing Kremlin talking points in the European Parliament. Not exactly a subtle cloak-and-dagger operation.

Nigel Farage, of course, has been keen to distance himself from the stench. For months he pretended not to know Gill, despite working with him closely for years. Then, when the evidence became undeniable, he shifted the script: Gill “betrayed” him and was simply “one bad apple

It’s convenient to focus on one fruit, a strategy designed to suggest the tree is healthy and the rest of us should stop asking awkward questions. But that collapses the moment you ask whether it’s remotely plausible that Gill was operating inside a major foreign influence network with nobody else around him noticing a thing.

Then there’s the context Farage desperately hopes everyone forgets. His long habit of echoing narratives that delight the Kremlin - from claiming the West “provoked” Russia’s invasion of Ukraine to praising Putin as a world leader. Add in Reform UK’s own murky ties to crypto donors and deep-pocketed backers, and the questions become increasingly difficult to wave away

Judge Cheema-Grubb captured the gravity of the moment today: “Your misconduct erodes public confidence in democracy… When politicians succumb to financial inducement, the public can no longer rely on the veracity of political debate,” she told Gill

Babs03 Sat 22-Nov-25 09:58:05

Sadly politicians who should know better are modelling themselves upon Farage whose success with some voters has encouraged them to err towards far right wing politics and become more hardline towards immigrants. As a result other political issues are falling by the wayside and this nation is suffering badly as a result.