Tommy Robinson’s ‘put Christ back into Christmas’ message"

foxie48

I'm pretty sure that all followers of TR/YL will vote for Reform at the next election but that, of course, doesn't mean that all of those who vote Reform support him and no one has even suggested that!

No, but Oreo read my post as saying that all Reform voters are Y-L followers.

Oreo

MaizieD

Galaxy

But by the second post we have moved on to Reform voters.

I don’t think that you are naive enough to believe that followers of Yaxley Lennon aren’t Reform voters.

All Reform voters are certainly not fans of TR/YL that’s a very unfair path to go down.

I didn't say that all Reform voters are followers of Y-L.

But, if his followers aren't Reform voters what are they likely to be?

I'm pretty sure that all followers of TR/YL will vote for Reform at the next election but that, of course, doesn't mean that all of those who vote Reform support him and no one has even suggested that!

I am particularly interested in how and when we will see evidence of “Goodwill to all Men” from Yaxley Lennon and his supporters.

New Testament
Romans Chapter 11.

It is all quite complicated as regards Israelites.

Part of the reason I barely comment on anything at all to do with Israel in general.
I leave the judgement of them to God.

MaizieD

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims.

Some Jews will get "grafted in" later on.
Will find the Bible verses at some point.

No, they believe he was an extremely good man and a prophet which makes him very special.

How about a little love and forgiveness at this time of year?

^fancythat Jesus is respected as a prophet in religions other than Christianity, including both Islam and Judaism.
^

Do they believe he was raised from the dead is the bit that is crucial.

imaround

I am watching the same playbook used in the US start to roll out there. Divide and conquer.

No one is taking anything away from Christmas.

I was thinking about your post iamaround and the U.K.

We are like a little mini-mirror image although luckily we have not yet voted in our mini-Trump who goes by the name of Farage. Robinson and all his followers are like mini-proud boys and white supremicists .

Trump of course distanced himself from his more violent, extreme supporters whilst he was on the election stump, but now he has pardoned them of all their sins.

Expect the same in the U.K.

Galaxy

Do people understand that five minutes ago being right wing was a perfectly normal thing to be. Being on the left does not mean you are necessarily a good person.

That made me laugh in a hollow kind of way, left wing voters are not any better than right wing voters of course, but yes it does need saying.

Whitewavemark2

Galaxy

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.

😄😄. Perhaps they will get the message about loving your fellow woman.

One can but hope

Do you really believe that Reform voters shouldn’t attend church Whitewavemark2? It’s a curious stance from a poster who presents as a liberal.

MaizieD

Galaxy

But by the second post we have moved on to Reform voters.

I don’t think that you are naive enough to believe that followers of Yaxley Lennon aren’t Reform voters.

All Reform voters are certainly not fans of TR/YL that’s a very unfair path to go down.

fancythat Jesus is respected as a prophet in religions other than Christianity, including both Islam and Judaism.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is an opportunist and, like grandmabatty I would not want to be associated with him in any way.
I find it astonishing that he is now promoting the cause of one of the most famous refugees in history and, presumably, the Christian ethos of acceptance of all.

MaizieD

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims.

Robinson doesn’t like Jews or Muslims. I suspect he was entirely indifferent about christians too until he hit on the latest wheeze to further divide the population.

paddyann, nothing to do with this Thread, but another Zombie has been resurrected, about Chinese medicine. Just to let you know that I reported it. Your name was at the top.
So many of them just now.

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims.

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

I wonder if the sermon will be in the style of the Reverend Budde?

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29
Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

Yes, he is the message Smileless

Exactly 👏👏👏

The message that no-one takes any notice of….

That is rather disparaging to those with faith MaizieD

I'm British but I'm not a Christian. I do, however, believe in many aspects of Christian teaching eg Love thy neighbour. I particularly like the parable of the good Samaritan too. I wonder what aspects of Christianity Tommy Robinson adhers to?

King Richard fought in the Crusades to “free” Jerusalem from “the infidel”. He like countless others fought in the name of Christ. This is what Tommy Robinson and others are now jumping on the bandwagon on. I once read an interesting article whoever supported Christ would not carry his banner into war, - but we do.

Galaxy

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.

😄😄. Perhaps they will get the message about loving your fellow woman.

One can but hope

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.