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Tommy Robinson’s ‘put Christ back into Christmas’ message"

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:11:44

I honestly couldnt believe what I was reading, except it follows a US trend for Far Right attempts to do the same.

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/07/church-of-england-campaign-challenging-tommy-robinson-put-christ-back-into-christmas-message?fbclid=IwY2xjawOi2aRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETBRRlJaamg3azk1VEZHWjdHc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoJp_m-Q2CWoLTNrxw8Ulo1PbD6iGQ3ZQ_tSXALujn68lWh-i-4WYDweMdnn_aem_gCwflvl9uuLiybICAOguWg

"The Church of England is to launch a poster campaign aimed at challenging the anti-migrant message of Tommy Robinson, whose “Unite the Kingdom” movement has urged its supporters to join a carols event next weekend to “put the Christ back into Christmas”.

The posters, which will go on display at bus stops, say “Christ has always been in Christmas” and “Outsiders welcome”. They will also be available for local churches to download and display over the festive period."

At a march organised by Unite the Kingdom in September there was a significant presence of Christian symbols, including wooden crosses and flags bearing Christian slogans, as well as chants of “Christ is king” and calls to defend “God, faith, family, homeland

Last week, Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, announced next weekend’s Christmas carol event at an undisclosed outdoor venue in central London. It would mark the beginning of “a new Christian revival in the UK – a moment to reclaim and celebrate our heritage, culture and Christian identity”.

I find this truly, truly chilling

You?

(Some Christian activists are planning a counter-event to protest at the far-right views of those organising the carol service)..(do read the rest of the article)

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:17:02

My daughter was telling me about how the reform type voters are now attending church, and a vicar was saying how he might approach this sudden attendance because they are not coming from a place of faith.

I think tbh that they will soon get bored and drift away from their new found God. I guess some will join and become part of the evangelical movement, but the rest will soon lose interest.

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IOMGran Sun 07-Dec-25 22:18:40

Make the idiots attend for 6 weeks and see how that fizzles out.

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Allira Sun 07-Dec-25 22:29:33

So all of us who might attend a Carol service risk being labelled as right-wing extremists!!

Personally, I've always thought that Jesus might be more to the Left myself.

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eazybee Sun 07-Dec-25 22:29:59

To Wyllow: 'Judge ye not lest ye be judged.'

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IOMGran Sun 07-Dec-25 22:31:31

Allira

So all of us who might attend a Carol service risk being labelled as right-wing extremists!!

Personally, I've always thought that Jesus might be more to the Left myself.

Jesus was actually quite a socialist in his teachings. Always wondered how the right wing avoided that one.

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Anniebach Sun 07-Dec-25 22:43:51

Christ has never left the Christmas Message

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:47:59

Allira

So all of us who might attend a Carol service risk being labelled as right-wing extremists!!

Personally, I've always thought that Jesus might be more to the Left myself.

Well - yes, he was. Even more so if you also read the Gnostic gospels (the ones that didn't make it into the bible when it was "settled" 2/3 centuries later)

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:51:56

easybee - Luke: 42 "How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye"

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Galaxy Sun 07-Dec-25 22:53:39

Do people understand that five minutes ago being right wing was a perfectly normal thing to be. Being on the left does not mean you are necessarily a good person.

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:55:42

IOMGran

Allira

So all of us who might attend a Carol service risk being labelled as right-wing extremists!!

Personally, I've always thought that Jesus might be more to the Left myself.

Jesus was actually quite a socialist in his teachings. Always wondered how the right wing avoided that one.

And for his time, very positive towards women.

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Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29

Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:57:15

But Tommy Robinson doesn't represent large swathes of the Right, Galaxy, but a certain kind of extreme.

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paddyann54 Sun 07-Dec-25 23:25:06

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Wyllow3 Mon 08-Dec-25 00:26:03

Thats a valid discussion but belongs in religion. (I'd join you on it there)

To discuss it here stops us discussing Tommy Robinson and attempts to turn churches into an arm of the Far Right particularly given whats happening in the USA..

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imaround Mon 08-Dec-25 03:55:48

I am watching the same playbook used in the US start to roll out there. Divide and conquer.

No one is taking anything away from Christmas. confused

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Allsorts Mon 08-Dec-25 04:16:08

Paddyanne, why do you think today's date is what it is. Do your research. He preached love and forgiveness. It doesn't matter if you believe ir not, that's up to the individual. Your post was offensive. Well done!

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Anniebach Mon 08-Dec-25 04:21:21

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29
Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

Yes, he is the message Smileless

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mum2three Mon 08-Dec-25 05:01:15

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

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ronib Mon 08-Dec-25 06:43:19

Living as part of a community doesn’t mean communism. Jesus lived communally. Jesus did not preach the gospel in a communist way - Give to Caesar that which is Caesar’s ….

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Dec-25 06:44:19

Galaxy

Do people understand that five minutes ago being right wing was a perfectly normal thing to be. Being on the left does not mean you are necessarily a good person.

Well said 👏👏👏

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Dec-25 06:44:36

Anniebach

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29
Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

Yes, he is the message Smileless

Exactly 👏👏👏

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Maremia Mon 08-Dec-25 06:52:42

No Allira, you will not be considered 'right wing' for attending a traditional carol service.
Especially when you actually know most of the words.

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fancythat Mon 08-Dec-25 06:52:45

I think tbh that they will soon get bored and drift away from their new found God. I guess some will join and become part of the evangelical movement, but the rest will soon lose interest.

Brilliant.

Even one saved is one saved.

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Galaxy Mon 08-Dec-25 07:23:57

But by the second post we have moved on to Reform voters.

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