2 boat people Afghans jailed for raping 15 year old girl

Aveline

Have you ever seen the advice booklets on life in Britain that were given to GIs in the war? Maybe they should be republished.

I went to school with an American girl in the 60s. When they moved here her uncle, who had served here in the war, was upset and told his sister "English girls are all tarts, you can buy any of them with a pair if nylons.".

Stereotypes.

AGAA4

Nobody excuses rape by anybody but rape happens regularly to young girls often in their own homes. Rape often goes unreported.
This thread is another 'hate' fest this time on immigrants.

How you can say that is beyond me. Every newspaper, TV news and radio phone ins are headlining this story because it is so horrific. Should we not mention it on here because you don’t want to be reminded of it?

It is absolutely not a “hate fest” as you call it. I started the thread because it is headline news and we should all be thinking about this poor girl who has probably had her life ruined.

They were allowed into this country and they show their thanks by raping a young girl within months of getting here. Nothing you say will make me or any right minded person feel any sympathy at all for these dangerous rapists.

Recently a man in Pakistani was charged with rape.

The judge ordered his sister to be raped by two men as his punishment.

This is Islam and Sharia law, zero respect for women.

eazybee - I don't think this young offender from Afghanistan necessarily phoned his friend I think he "called him over".

In some countries unprotected ( by men) girls, boys and women are chased and harried and sexually assaulted and worse and considered fair game.Yes, we are very lucky to be born in a civilised country here.

Thank you, Petra. What a depressing read. Do men in Iraq routinely go round sexually assaulting anonymous women in public, as well as their own wives & womenfolk? Dragging women unknown to them off to parks to rape them and so on?

It makes me count my blessings to live the UK, imperfect as we are.

Wyllow3

I think I’ll leave the thread sinking in its own bile at this point.

You don’t like to hear what’s true?

I think I’ll leave the thread sinking in its own bile at this point.

I don't think it's just women they don't respect - after reading an article or two re how they treat young boys sometimes in their own country (ie also treating them as if they are "up for grabs" and raping them too - whether for money or otherwise).

Sandrina

I think we actually want the same thing...a safer world for women and children. Where we differ is that I believe dehumanising people based on their background doesn’t get us closer to that world. We can address real problems without resorting to language that treats whole communities as less than human.

Oh yes the be kind!directive.
We are importing whole boatloads of potential problems into the UK with many men who don’t respect Western women or perhaps any women at all.

I’m sick to death of hearing about these boat people committing rape and various other serious crimes.
I’m even more sick of people sticking up for them & making excuses for them.
These same people seem to fixate on Tommy Robinson and how terrible he is.
If the subject wasn’t so serious it would be laughable.

In the last 24 hours I have read about 3 cases of rape, all involving Afghans. As well as this case there was one in Bolton and another in Bristol.

pably15

Israr Niazal...on the news it says that he spent 9 months travelling to uk, eventually arriving in british waters in a small boat, he wants to make a life for himself in this country after he is released. He pleaded guilty 1 day before his 17th birthday, it seems that was the cut off point for automatic deportation.
Surely this government has to start looking after the British people instead of bending backwards to accomodate migrants.

Yes!

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Sago I just heard that on the BBC radio news, a 28 year old Afghan national has been charged with raping two 14 year old girls.

It is just endless…

Another report of an Afghan national raping a girl in Bolton.
Also a case in Bristol.

A leaflet explaining any of this to these men is useless.
They have no respect for women and no respect for us British citizens, we are infidels, they look down on us and feel they can do as they wish.

Wyllow3

AGAA4

Nobody excuses rape by anybody but rape happens regularly to young girls often in their own homes. Rape often goes unreported.
This thread is another 'hate' fest this time on immigrants.

Absolutely, this from the start seemed to me clearly to be the intention of this thread.

Why see racism on so many threads when it isn’t there? The amount of rapes and sexual assaults on girls and women by men that we have taken into our country to have a better life is truly shocking.

Advice booklets on our ways here would be absolutely advisable imo. Goodness knows - if I had to be instructed in their (only slightly different) ways in Denmark and duly took note then how much more is it the case that people from such a different culture need such booklets. Not just about our sexual mores...but the various other differences as well (eg we expect people to form an orderly queue if there's several people waiting for something to quote just one obvious example of things we take for granted). So - yep both sexual behaviour (where one could basically sum it up as "Do not treat women as lesser beings than men - because we know they aren't"....ie whatever way they wanted to put that).

I think unless someone is British and has spent the vast majority or all of their life in Britain then one doesn't realise just how much we've automatically absorbed about how to lead our lives here and don't even think of other ways to do things - as we've just automatically done them the way/thought the way we've seen demonstrated to us for decades of our life.

In both instances. These trash shoild have been doported as soon as they foot in the country.

And how about sending a bill to the countries whose citizens are deported thsen bck to live there.

Think hotel, court. jail costs.

Why are we paying these costs?

Thank you petra

Horrible to read, but we really should if only to understand the mindset of some of the men coming into the UK

The situation Re rape in Afghanistan is so bad the the UN are calling it a crime against humanity.

www.ohchr.org/en/meeting-summaries/2024/06/human-rights-council-hears-severity-violations-against-women-and-girls

SueDonim

You have it in a nutshell, Terribull, as usual.

I don’t accept the argument that the perpetrator didn’t know it wasn’t socially acceptable in the UK. Is it acceptable to act in that way in Iraq? I very much doubt it.

is it acceptable to act in that way in Iraq
It’s not acceptable to the women but Iraqi men believe it is.
This article is 5 years old but this thinking can’t be changed in 5 years.

www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/violence-against-women-permeates-all-aspects-life-iraq

Have you ever seen the advice booklets on life in Britain that were given to GIs in the war? Maybe they should be republished.

You have it in a nutshell, Terribull, as usual.

I don’t accept the argument that the perpetrator didn’t know it wasn’t socially acceptable in the UK. Is it acceptable to act in that way in Iraq? I very much doubt it.