2 boat people Afghans jailed for raping 15 year old girl

They should both be deported once the sentence has been served.

Personally I think they should have been deported as soon as they were found guilty, and I’m normally a fairly vocal supporter of asylum seekers.

I agree Cossy, why should we pay to keep them in our prisons.

They should serve half their sentence then be escorted back to their home country.

definitely, should be deported,

The receiving country has to agree to the deportation.

I totally agree with all here, but it's a mistake to think "oh, it's the governments fault". It's not the first case and wont be the last.

!!! to "The receiving country has to agree to the deportation" !!!!

Seriously? Their own country having to agree to have them back = wow! just wow!

I guess the answer to that is "We have to agree to keep them - after they've served their sentence - and we don't". So unless they want to be stateless (which I reckon we'd have no problem with that happening to them.....)......

Can someone show me where we discovered Israr Niazal (aged 16) came on a small boat? We know ^when he arrived but I don't think anything has been said about ^how he came here.

I am aware Jan Jahanzeb was 17 and did come on a small boat. He will be deported as he was 17 I believe.

Israr Niazal...on the news it says that he spent 9 months travelling to uk, eventually arriving in british waters in a small boat, he wants to make a life for himself in this country after he is released. He pleaded guilty 1 day before his 17th birthday, it seems that was the cut off point for automatic deportation.
Surely this government has to start looking after the British people instead of bending backwards to accomodate migrants.

Joshua Radcliffe, defending Niazal said:
Niazal was still seeking asylum and intended “to make a life in this country after he has been released”.

The court was told Niazal pleaded guilty a day before his 17th birthday – the cut-off point for automatic deportation of foreign criminals sentenced to more than a year in custody.

Robert Holt, for Jahanzeb, said the teenager had spent nine months travelling from Afghanistan to the UK, eventually arriving in British waters on a small boat.

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8/12/25

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Not quite X post - we both give different information. 🙂

He "wants to make a life for himself after he is released" !!!

That should prove "interesting" - given some people have long memories and I'm not the only one who - once they are quite sure and certain someone is a criminal - will have "binned them and told everyone nearby" within the week.

it's unbelievable....commit this horendous crime, then still want to make a life for himself when he's released...it's as if once he's served his time ...the slate's wiped clean.I don't think the 15 year old girl or her family will think that way

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/asylum-seekers-jailed-rape-jahanzeb-israr-niaza-warwick-b2880412.html

He should NEVER be allowed to make a new life here. In fact we never should have allowed him and his mates in, in the first place.

CariadAgain

!!! to "The receiving country has to agree to the deportation" !!!!

Seriously? Their own country having to agree to have them back = wow! just wow!

I guess the answer to that is "We have to agree to keep them - after they've served their sentence - and we don't". So unless they want to be stateless (which I reckon we'd have no problem with that happening to them.....)......

Yes. For example, we have to agree before UK criminals are re admitted to the UK.

It's international, based on the understandable concept that going ground the world dumping criminals generally doesn't go down well.

pably15

it's unbelievable....commit this horendous crime, then still want to make a life for himself when he's released...it's as if once he's served his time ...the slate's wiped clean.I don't think the 15 year old girl or her family will think that way

Who is his solicitor? He or someone must have advised him as to the laws regarding deportation.
The court was told Niazal pleaded guilty a day before his 17th birthday – the cut-off point for automatic deportation of foreign criminals sentenced to more than a year in custody.

I believe the sentence is ten years, which seems to mean five years imprisonment so what happens if his country refuses to accept him when free? I am sure the victim's family will watch for his release and deportation but what influence will they have?

As regards exporting criminals, there are many benign reasons for international law - for example, a country could decide for example that a journalist or indeed any UK citizen who was telling some home truths about the country could charge and deport them even when there has been no crime, and so on.

(of course, if its Russian, you might just get bumped off, or be a UK citizen and face the death penalty for something we would not consider henious...)

eazybee

I believe the sentence is ten years, which seems to mean five years imprisonment so what happens if his country refuses to accept him when free? I am sure the victim's family will watch for his release and deportation but what influence will they have?

It's a valid point, but we are talking Afghanistan. Generally within Western Europe its a given of citizens, but elsewhere?

The safety of our citizens is of prime importance, not the safety of the perpetrator.

How do we know he was only 16 when he pleaded guilty, none of them seem to have any documents on them when they arrive, they are usually dumped in the sea.

pably15,
As I said, we don't know how the younger one got here.

It was Robert Holt, speaking for and about Jahanzeb who said the teenager had spent nine months travelling from Afghanistan to the UK, eventually arriving in British waters on a small boat.

I am appalled by their actions here but nevertheless have found nothing to say that Niazal came on a small boat... he may well have done - but I'd like to know.

Ideally, they should serve their sentence in their own country. If that is not possible, perhaps it's time to consider another option. If we were to build a prison in some desolate place, and put all the foreign prisoners there to serve out their time, I'm sure there will be a country with unused wasteland (such as the Sahara) which would be only too pleased to be paid for such a project.