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The great feminisation theory.

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Dec-25 13:49:15

The latest gem from the far right in America and beginning to get a footing in the U.K.

The right are now talking about what they see as an existential problem of women in the professional workplace. The argument is that professions are becoming too feminised. The traditional roles and distinct areas of influence have been muddied largely to men’s detriment and the innate rolls the two sexes fill, so - men = strong fighters, providers - women = caring non-rational role.

We must get back to the “proper rolls fulfilled by the sexes.

Takes some believing!

orly Sat 13-Dec-25 15:46:40

LauraNorderr

Conservative Party had the first woman PM, now on the third. Labour yet to recognise a suitable woman.
Oh and to be fair, I have heard somewhere that labour has the first female chancellor.

Starmer has surrounded himself with women - look at the front bench at PMQs. Unforgettably I don't think any of them are doing a good job.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Dec-25 14:50:54

Essexgirl145

Women can always provide the rolls provided by men, but the men of the west have become too soft. Too feminine. They do need their traditional rolls back.

This in one😊

Jess20 Sat 13-Dec-25 14:43:29

I used to comment on 'Conservative Home' but I think they cottoned on to the fact that a member of the Labour Party. Anyway, it's worth reading just to see what people are thinking. Sadly, I think there's a nasty backlash against both women's rights and climate change concerns and both seem to me to be existential threats. I couldn't ever go back to the days of needing a mans permission to have a mortgage or, indeed, a hysterectomy if I needed one. We're experiencing a horrific attack on our reproductive and economic rights at the moment and I think many young people take these hard won rights for granted and can't imagine returning to the levels of (benevolent?) patriarchy we have seen in our younger days.

Essexgirl145 Sat 13-Dec-25 14:27:50

Women can always provide the rolls provided by men, but the men of the west have become too soft. Too feminine. They do need their traditional rolls back.

LauraNorderr Sat 13-Dec-25 14:24:41

Third female party leader

LauraNorderr Sat 13-Dec-25 14:23:20

Conservative Party had the first woman PM, now on the third. Labour yet to recognise a suitable woman.
Oh and to be fair, I have heard somewhere that labour has the first female chancellor.

ArthurAskey Sat 13-Dec-25 14:20:37

I have to say the most women police officers are totally useless when it comes to policing the streets.

AuntieE Sat 13-Dec-25 14:10:22

This is worrying. After all Nazi propaganda said a woman's place was in the Kitchen, looking after children, and going to church! Nothing wrong with any of these activities, until like dictators you forbid or make it hard for women to do anything else.

Unfortunately, a reaction has set in against the freedom western women have increasingly enjoyed since the suffragists first demanded the vote for women, and before that some brave women demanded the right to study at universities.

Some men have always opposed women taking on typical male professions or work, some haven't. And to be honest, some women are not happy with male nurses, midwives or carers for the elderly, and the great number of cases of child abuse to have become public knowledge within the last twenty years or so, have led some women on this and other fora to say that men should not be looking after small children!

All we can do, is to continue to maintain that everyone, irrespective of the sex they were born with, or the gender they have chosen to assume , should have the right to chose their own education and line of work.

Grantanow Sat 13-Dec-25 14:09:55

Whitewavemark2

I understand that the Conservative Home magazine has indicated it’s approval in the U.K.

If Conservative Home are endorsing it you shoukd read Conservative Woman!!!!

Wyllow3 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:58:57

Very true, Jess.

It's so sad, too. I recall so much in the Womens Movement in the 1970's most of us were not anti men but wanting the take the men we knew on the journey where men are able to be carers and be able to express difficult or vunerable emotions, and women to be strong and protective where it fitted the character and preferences of that individual women.

Its so sad that even before these new "conservative" ideas, for example, came along, that the rates of suicide are highest in young men in the UK as they have been unable to ask for help and "share".

Just as we are travelling the road challenging male abuse (As in many men fear loss of power and control and act these out coercively or violently)....the counter attack begins.

It is a challenge for many men still, the sense of loss of what they "thought themselves to be" but we've been gradually redefining and nibbling away at these insecurities in men and many young and not so young women have been coming forward into the lives we imagined in the 1970's.

Equal, but different.

fuelled on a psychological level of course by the Andrew Tates of this world.

(keep on trucking, sisters...).

Jess20 Sat 13-Dec-25 13:46:53

As soon as a group loses a significant advantage in life that they have come to regard as their right, they experience it as unfair.

M0nica Thu 11-Dec-25 20:10:57

Ladyleftfieldlover

What would my daughter do!? She is a career woman and not interested in marriage or children.

My daughter likewise.

imaround Thu 11-Dec-25 18:40:05

I haven't researched it yet. But I saw a headline that Heritage has released Project 2026 recently.

Grandmabatty Thu 11-Dec-25 17:53:29

Project 25 has a lot to answer for. At the time that Trump was standing for election, there were warnings about the impact upon women and many poopoohed it. Sadly much of it has come to fruition or is actively being considered. Farage and Reform are on his coattails too

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Dec-25 17:47:05

They aren’t interested in evidence!! Trump certainly isn’t.

Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 11-Dec-25 17:44:25

What would my daughter do!? She is a career woman and not interested in marriage or children.

M0nica Thu 11-Dec-25 17:42:33

Just a lot of waffle and wishful thinking. If they really knew what they were talking about they would have the evidence at their finger tips, stats, peer reviewed research with the research framework spelt out, undertaken at top universities by respected aacademics.

By the way, if Conservative Home is espousing it, where does that leave Kemi Badenoch?

Smileless2012 Thu 11-Dec-25 17:34:11

I was thinking the same Granmarie and I know it's concerning but I couldn't help laughingtchblush.

Grannmarie Thu 11-Dec-25 17:11:12

The Handmaid's Tale comes to mind. Sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.

eazybee Thu 11-Dec-25 17:04:18

Why so concerned with American issues?
Oh I see, promoted by Conservatives and Farage.
Apparently.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Dec-25 16:38:37

Just listening to my DDs ex-boss - CEO of GSK. Well, she will have to return to the home - where she belongs😄

LemonJam Thu 11-Dec-25 14:48:02

WWM2- a logical follow on from Trump's extreme right wing ideology and antipathy to all DEI hard won rights and legal protections. In reality a white, male, none liberal, autocratic society, with power over the judiciary, military etc is the end goal. Perish the thought it's promoted by Conservative or Reform Parties ( ie where Trump treads Farage often seeks to copy/follow...).

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Dec-25 14:37:38

I understand that the Conservative Home magazine has indicated it’s approval in the U.K.

Maremia Thu 11-Dec-25 14:34:23

They want us to be 'surrendered wives', and some women in the States are going along with this coercion.

Magenta8 Thu 11-Dec-25 14:23:09

Women have proved time and time again that they can fulfil professional roles just as well as men can. For generations women have managed to excel at traditionally male jobs when they have won the opportunity.

What the far right in the USA want to see is the return of male supremacy and gender stereotyping with a one size fits all approach. Not all men want to be macho alpha-males and not all women want to be stay at home homemakers.

All this would mean a return of positive discrimination in favour of males in the workplace so they could stop howling about positive discrimination in favour of any other group.

Women would be expected to take on the traditional female role whether or not it was what they wanted or if it suited their character and circumstances.

It has been difficult for women to climb the greasy pole and progress has been slow. What these right wingers in the USA want to do is to take the pole away completely. I blame Trump and co. for most of this.