But not for those of us who don't use it, that is what is particularly difficult especially for a younger generation ( who access media in a completely
different way).
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The BBC Funded by Subscription or Advertising?
(101 Posts)Negotiations on the BBC Charter renewal have thrown the real possibility of allowing adverts or subscriptions into the mix.
Nice to know this institution may actually become as mindlessly inane as commercial channels, with sponsors dictating the agenda of what we may be allowed to watch.
Rather like the American model.
Yes, for sure I will delight in watching the celebrated Amanda Holden prancing about playing Lady Deadlock in a commercially sponsored version of Bleak House with as many advertising breaks as can be stuffed in........
Agree with your post RSALLAN2002. The BBC is great value for money.
The BBC is the last place I can find uninterrupted TV so I would be horrified if it changed.
RSALLAN2002
BBC is not biased. People complain it is biased in opposing ways. They are all wrong. It is great value for money - less than 50p a day per licence holder, much less in terms of cost per head using it. Why do smaller channels rely on BBC programmes for much of their output (comedy, quiz, documentary). They'll be in trouble if their supply from BBC dries up.
Precisely. People used to moan about repeats when there were only a few channels but now seem quite happy to watch repeats of old BBC programmes on the numerous freeview channels. Which, as you pointed out, would close down without the drip feed of old BBC series. Take away everything that the BBC has provided us with over the decades and there wouldn’t be much left to watch.
BBC is not biased. People complain it is biased in opposing ways. They are all wrong. It is great value for money - less than 50p a day per licence holder, much less in terms of cost per head using it. Why do smaller channels rely on BBC programmes for much of their output (comedy, quiz, documentary). They'll be in trouble if their supply from BBC dries up.
Is a anyone influenced by the adverts?
One or two are fun at Christmas but, apart from that, we skip or silence them.
I don't really care about adverts in themselves. They are easily avoided - just record the programme and skip them, or watch on a subscription version of the catch-up channel.
My concern is that advertisers influence what is screened. Suppose there is a concern about the efficacy or side-effects of a new drug. If it is made by a company that also advertises shampoo, hairspray, baby food and more, how likely is it that a channel that relies on the advertising revenue will screen it?
If we want an independent service (independent of financial concerns) we have to keep advertising out, IMO.
Allira
Sueinkent
Just to ad, I am quite happy paying the license and regard as great value for money compared to Naflix, amazon and all the other below par simpleton-targeted dross.
simpleton-targeted dross
We do like Darby and Joan on Prime 😂
But then, we are probably simpletons
So, what are your preferences, SueinKent? Strictly, Eastenders, Tittybangbang, Danny Dyer: I Believe in UFOs or other such intellectually stimulating offerings?
Not to mention repeats!!
Eight on BBC1 today
Eighteen plus an old film on BBC2 today
BBC4 - doesn't even bother to say which are repeats because they all are, plus old films
BBC3 - don't ask!
How much would the BBC pay me to sit in a room and keep choosing old programmes and pressing the repeat button I wonder?
Even a simpleton could do that.
Sueinkent
Just to ad, I am quite happy paying the license and regard as great value for money compared to Naflix, amazon and all the other below par simpleton-targeted dross.
If you pretty much only watch the bbc how do you know that the output from streaming channels are directed is ^simpleton targeted dross
You don’t know that, do you?
Sueinkent
Just to ad, I am quite happy paying the license and regard as great value for money compared to Naflix, amazon and all the other below par simpleton-targeted dross.
simpleton-targeted dross
We do like Darby and Joan on Prime 😂
But then, we are probably simpletons
So, what are your preferences, SueinKent? Strictly, Eastenders, Tittybangbang, Danny Dyer: I Believe in UFOs or other such intellectually stimulating offerings?
All I can say is that it would appear the excessive salary being paid to Samir Shah as the BBC Chairman, is funded by license payers and following the Trump sage, millions now believe he is unreliable, cannot be trusted to do the right thing and definitely does not act with integrity. The other big factor is that if Trump succeeds with his $10 billion lawsuit, which Shah intends to fight with income received from license fee payers, the BBC may be declared Bankrupt or enter into Administration. Shah needs to resign, because when there is a bad apple left in the cart, which is rotten to the core, this needs to be removed before all of the remaining healthy apples get infected the same way.
Only time I want to watch BBC is when Doctor Who is on!
Just to ad, I am quite happy paying the license and regard as great value for money compared to Naflix, amazon and all the other below par simpleton-targeted dross.
I petty much only watch the BBC. Usually on iplayer which is a terrific resource. Commercial TV is almost all inane rubbish as well as being made unwatchable by advertising. Ads would be my first choice for Room 101. A waste of money, a tax dodge, and major destroyer of the environment. I would be willing to pay a sub for ad free.
I’m currently watching all of the old BBC stuff about the Brontes on iplayer. Doubt if we’d get those sort of programmes in the future. Also Dickensian and two adaptations of A Christmas Carol.
I absolutely agree that the licence fee is, as Galaxy says, a system from a bygone time, but there is no compelling reason why the government shouldn't continue to fund it and it should be kept at arms length from political control but with a requirement to maintain its impartiality. It is an institution which is admired and trusted internationally and as such is a valuable source of soft power.
The introduction of advertising and sponsorship would, I think, be bound to completely alter its programming and the quality of its output as programme makers would have to consider the needs of advertisers and sponsors as well as the needs of its audience.
What would happen to the Foreign Service? To local radio?
I listen to a lot of podcasts. Most of them really informative and educational. Even so they are getting filled with more and more advertising and you have to pay to listen to them ad free. What would happen to the BBC is that the quality of the programmes would diminish and we’d all end up having to pay to watch ad free for a channel nowhere near as good as it is now. Be careful what you wish for.
Let’s not forget that the Open University resulted in BBC4. But heaven forbid that people should be educated. The thought of the BBC becoming like Fox News fills me with dread.
Yes I know how the license fee works ( re YouTube, etc) otherwise I would have stopped paying a long time ago, as I do use You tube etc. But it is a system from a bygone time - pre streaming services, etc and it is the BBC that benefits from the majority of it. I think it particularly difficult for young people to understand this type of system, as they consume media in a completely different way to previously.
Wholeheartedly agree👏👏👏
I happily pay a licence fee in order to have a national broadcaster that has some other agenda than selling air time to the lowest common denominator. Because we have BBC, we also have a higher level of competitive commercial broadcasters in UK.
Just take one look at the calibre of USA broadcasting. What an appalling prospect.
MaizieD, Have I understood correctly MaizieD that The TV licence fee money is initially paid into the Government's Consolidated Fund and then the vast majority is then given directly back to the BBC to fund its services?
That is, for every £1 of licence fee collected- 86p funds BBC services, 5p covers licence fee collection and pension costs- 9p supports other services like Freeview, Freest and Welsh Language S4C as per government agreements?
If that's not the case what do you say the Consolidated fund spends the money on?
Should add I don’t have any paid for channels or tv and listen to the radio sometimes all night
I don’t mind adverts I completely space out when they re on and have no idea what they rave been drivelling about its in one ear and out the other
I d rather have adverts and no tv license
Like silverlining we watch a lot of BBC and other channels on Freeview. Don’t have any other subscription channels. Always find something to watch, often on BBC iplayer which is a great resource. There are things on BBC that I don’t like but let’s face it, you can’t please all of the people all of the time. There has to be variety.
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