Epstein is Trump's Watergate Scandal.

I agree BlessedArt.

Trump’s faux sympathy for Clinton being exposed is also truly cringe making, he has no shame.

Bill Clinton’s history of a predator is long

This piece is not so long.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopergate_(Bill_Clinton)

Cumbrianmale56

Bill Clinton seems to be a regular visitor to Epstein's party house as well. It seemed when the presidency passed from George H Bush to Bill Clinton and there was a generational change, things went downhill. Whatever else you might think of them, the Presidents America had in the seventies and eighties would never have befriended Epstein.

Bill Clinton has always been a sexual predator.
When he was governor of Arkansas his state troopers would procure women for him and not for consensual sex 🤬
Read and weep for these women.

archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/i/isikoff-clinton.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Let’s not try to re-write history by making most former presidents out to be more virtuous and upstanding than they were. We are in an age where lot’s of dirty laundry is more easily exposed. The former presidents are lucky they did not have the White House during the age of the internet and hacking. The entire Bush family is a red flag. Kennedy was a serial philanderer and Reagan was a prejudiced man whose policies vilified and further disadvantaged the underprivileged. Who knows who they rubbed shoulders with away from the public eye. Let’s also not forget that whatever one thinks of Bill Clinton (rightfully negative imo), Barak Obama needn’t be lumped into any group with him or Trump regarding his associations.

Will it be his Watergate?....Oh I do hope so

Bill Clinton seems to be a regular visitor to Epstein's party house as well. It seemed when the presidency passed from George H Bush to Bill Clinton and there was a generational change, things went downhill. Whatever else you might think of them, the Presidents America had in the seventies and eighties would never have befriended Epstein.

Those people who love Trump will soon be losing their Medicare. How many of the 'Latinos for Trump' still support him?

Casdon

keepingquiet

Trump won't go- he has got away with all sorts so far. He still has defenders despite what is obvious to most people- also all the others will be brought done with him and they can't bear that idea either.
Meanwhile, we have to put up with the crazy and constant media coverage...this will drag on for years.

He will go. Whether it’s death, dementia, scandal or subterfuge that will force him out, who knows, but I’d be very surprised if he lasts the term. It’s like a bottle of pop being shaken.

Obviously I hope you're right- but there is nothing I can see that will suggest it will be any time soon.
Yes, he could die suddenly but then his family will be making moves...
Dementia is slow and very debilitating. I can't see a significant deterioration in his condition- he's always said crazy things and people love him for it.
Scandal- well he's had far more than most and still remains untouched by it.
Subterfuge? Not by anyone competent enough in his own camp. There is no one plotting a take-over.
He may well still be there in a years time... even more.

Vance doesn't have charisma, so unlikely to fill Trump's shoes with the MAGA base (even if it's still unified, which also seems unlikely).

Yes, but Vance is not the MAGA god. And maybe Republicans are not so scared of him. And when Trump goes, it will be easier to get at more of the Files evidence, and see the others who are implicated.

If Trump does go before the term is over it will most likely be Vance who will take over. I think he may be worse if that is possible.

keepingquiet

Trump won't go- he has got away with all sorts so far. He still has defenders despite what is obvious to most people- also all the others will be brought done with him and they can't bear that idea either.
Meanwhile, we have to put up with the crazy and constant media coverage...this will drag on for years.

He will go. Whether it’s death, dementia, scandal or subterfuge that will force him out, who knows, but I’d be very surprised if he lasts the term. It’s like a bottle of pop being shaken.

What kind of human, let alone a “mum” condones sex trafficking???

mum2three

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This is sick.

If you think it’s every man’s fantasy to collect poor, underage girls to satisfy their degenerate sexual urges, I fear for the children in your life. For if this is normal to you it is because you are surrounded by deviants who have normalized that way of thinking. Shame on you for those wicked thoughts. Shame on the perverts who think like you. Absolutely horrific mentality you have.

His dementia will get to a point where it can't be ignored.

Trump won't go- he has got away with all sorts so far. He still has defenders despite what is obvious to most people- also all the others will be brought done with him and they can't bear that idea either.
Meanwhile, we have to put up with the crazy and constant media coverage...this will drag on for years.

The news reporting at present seems to focus on mildly salacious photographs, not on any details of blackmail, which obviously is far more important.

Maremia

Being against under age sex, trafficking and sadistic sexual violence is not being 'narrow minded, is it?

I do wonder if some people are treating the girls subjected to these crimes in the same way that the girls who were sexually abused by the grooming gangs ie it was their choice and they knew what they were doing!

Being against under age sex, trafficking and sadistic sexual violence is not being 'narrow minded, is it?

Epstein is Trump's Watergate Scandal

Not seeing it myself.
Not yet anyway.

Yes I also think it's apt, but Trump won't resign. If the mid terms go against him and hopefully they will, I think he will be impeached again but not necessarily because of the Epstein files. He's totally alienating Republicans who are not maga and he's splitting his maga base, helped by MTG 's attacks on him. Hopefully he'll get trounced at the mid terms.

I think it has gone beyond the point of mattering whether Trump was involved personally in any sexual activities. The accusations of a cover up, which is perverting the course of justice, are what will bring him down ultimately, so the comparison with Watergate is apt.

mum2three

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I don't think there's anything 'narrow minded' about people voicing their concern over the trafficking of women and girls to, as you put it, 'satisfy men's fantasies'.