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A Christmas Carol from another view.

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DaisyAnneReturns Wed 24-Dec-25 22:16:39

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI24t1KRXI4

Video from Barry's Economics.

In A Christmas Carol, Scrooge isn’t cruel because he lacks compassion — he’s cruel because his worldview is shaped by wealth and insulation from consequence. Psychological biases like self-sufficiency and the just-world fallacy keep him blind to dependency, suffering, and structural inequality.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 25-Dec-25 10:56:02

Just bumping this as it went on late in the evening. It includes some economics and some psychology - we we get the thinking wrong,

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 25-Dec-25 10:56:57

why we!

LemonJam Thu 25-Dec-25 12:26:42

I was not intending to post on the Gransnet news and political thread today 🤷‍♀️ 🥱. But your post and video captured my imagination DAR.

Dickens was a moralist and philanthropist; the video attributes a "just world fallacy/bias" to his message of the Christmas Carol story. In so far as Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol to highlight the callous indifference of the rich toward what should be their social responsibilities- i.e. the idea that we are all one family and should care for others- the video has resonance.

Dickens' place in literature endures because of his skill to capture his readers' imagination and appeal to their hearts for the causes he stood for. Dickens was shaped by his experience as a child and his observations. He exposed poverty, corruption, hypocrisy and highlighted the experience of the poor working class. His stories often contrast virtuous, struggling characters with villainous, heartless figures obsessed with money and status. Then rather than offering complex economic theories Dickens appealed directly to the reader's emotions, hoping to evoke sympathy and inspire moral reform.

Dickens family suffered financial hardship when his father died that lead to his schooling being interrupted. He developed empathy for the experience of others who face adversity and "fallen" circumstances.

Roll onto current day and we still live in a world that rewards wealth and power. What causes are important to people in society". What moral, social reform do we need and if so to what end? What do we need from our political leaders to works towards those goals?

I will reflect on those questions after the Christmas festivities. Meanwhile Merry Christmas to all the Gransnet family.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 25-Dec-25 14:40:32

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I found the "Just World" theory really caught my imagination as we see so much of it on GN and in general conversation.

RosieandherMaw Thu 25-Dec-25 16:51:22

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

Blossoming Thu 25-Dec-25 17:19:29

Better than never thinking about things at all.

Very interesting video DaisyAnne. Thank you.

Mel1967 Thu 25-Dec-25 17:27:05

RosieandherMaw

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

Definitely
I read Christmas Carol every year and just appreciate it for what it is.
Why do we have to over analyse things.
Happy Christmas 🎄

bonbons01 Thu 25-Dec-25 18:58:54

Is critical thinking overthinking? I wouldn't say so. Dicken's was a critical thinker, haven't you ever read Hard Times? Strike the keystone.

Blossoming Thu 25-Dec-25 19:34:40

My schooldays were a looong time ago, but I do remember that we were encouraged to analyse the books that we read.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 25-Dec-25 19:53:55

RosieandherMaw

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

Really. Why do you say that in this instance? I like to learn and share the sources I find; is that overthinking?

Maremia Thu 25-Dec-25 20:14:34

Fascinating.
What did Elon Musk say about 'empathy'?

Maremia Thu 25-Dec-25 20:19:34

And what did that journalist notice at the Nuremburg trials?
The Nazis on trial showed no evidence of having any empathy.

Mollygo Thu 25-Dec-25 20:28:20

RosieandherMaw

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

Absolutely.

bonbons01 Thu 25-Dec-25 20:32:16

No, that's not overthinking, DaisyAnnReturns.

Caleo Thu 25-Dec-25 21:23:40

RosieandherMaw

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

An unexamined life is not worth living (Socrates).

A life without reflection risks being governed by habit, authority, or untested assumptions.

Mollygo Thu 25-Dec-25 21:48:39

A life without reflection risks being governed by habit, authority, or untested assumptions. But a life with over reflection often leads to untested assumptions.
Over repetition even when c&p does not always mean validity.

Caleo Thu 25-Dec-25 22:05:03

Caleo

RosieandherMaw

Is it possible to overthink some things? tchconfused

An unexamined life is not worth living (Socrates).

A life without reflection risks being governed by habit, authority, or untested assumptions.

A minute creature has just scampered across my screen!