British Indians still aborting baby girls in UK

Most abortion carried out is for reasons that it is a foetus of any sex.

There is a lot of double standards going on in this thread.

Basis of gender.

Oreo please don't put a spin on my posts which misinterprets them. I have already said up thread that abortion purely on the basis is illegal but as yet no one has provided proper evidence that it is being carried out.

foxie48

The whole of this article is based on a small gender imbalance over a five year period ending in 2021.

The practice didn’t end in 2021!

So as women, we shouldn’t be concerned that this is happening here in the UK.
I don’t think so!
It should concern everyone that an abhorrent practice of killing an unborn foetus for reasons of being the wrong sex is happening.No matter what the percentage and it isn’t tiny and it’s only the ones known about.

The whole of this article is based on a small gender imbalance over a five year period ending in 2021.

Fgs there's no evidence whatsoever that anyone is having late abortions for singular reason that they're unhappy with the sex of the foetus. You can pay for a private blood test at 6 weeks which is 99% accurate in determining gender. An abortion by pill is possible up to 11 weeks. The whole of

Summerlove

sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice.

I agree. Unless abortion is given to anyone who asks, for any reason they see fit, then other people (usually men) are taking decisions for women.

I am not saying that I would be happy with allowing late terminations for all reasons, but I don't understand the difference between allowing them for disability or inconvenience and not for sex. In the end, it should be the woman who has the final word, and the people around her should be educated about the implications of coercing her into aborting girl babies. I agree that it is immoral, but so is coercing a woman to give birth to an unwanted child who may be mistreated, along with the woman herself.

Surely any woman who has had to deal with this deserves support and sympathy not judgement

I don't think posters are saying that at all.

Late abortions are only carried out in extreme circumstances.
If a foetus is incompatible with life due to physical or mental circumstances.
I have never needed to have an abortion indeed it took mt 9 pregnancies that ended naturally by miscarriage or birth to bring home two babies one of whom was born 3months early.However I support any woman faced with the tragedy of a late abortion or losing her own life y continuing with a pregnancy that would lead to suffering and/or death for the baby due to severe health problems.
Surely any woman who has had to deal with this deserves support and sympathy not judgement .
I despair when I see women with closed minds who can’t see the mental anguish behind the choice of many if not most abortions .Whatever the reason may be .

Medieval. The sooner it dies out with succeeding generations, (which it will) the better.

"sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice."

I concur

Summerlove

sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice.

My grandson was born at 28 weeks and although small he was a perfectly formed baby and is now a thriving 10 year old. I do not agree that women should have a choice after the 24 weeks point of viability.

theworriedwell

Allira my Consultant was fine with my decision. I'd had my 3rd baby at 36, he offered amnio and I declined and said it was a waste of NHS resources as I was keeping the baby. He said not to worry about his budget, if it would help me to know in advance if there were problems. I said it wouldn't. The midwife who was with him told me they'd be there to support Mr whatever happened, she'd hold my hand through the amnio if I was worried or she'd be there if there was a problem when baby was born
They were lovely, I was due to see the Consultant but he was dealing with an emergency so I saw this young doctor. I was so upset and crying. Who do they think they are to.try to bully a woman into an abortion. The way he said were running out of time for the abortion when he didn't know if there was a problem.

So sorry you had that experience.

I was annoyed rather than upset, but he did rather put the wind up me!

sundowngirl

When is the baby’s gender determined? Is it at the 20 week scan? Although still legal for medical reasons it is very late in pregnancy and reasons for requesting a termination should be investigated thoroughly. I would imagine the majority of terminations for other reasons are carried out in the early stages of pregnancy.
I agree with abortion being the woman’s choice but I think the current cut off is far too late.

If you agree to a cut off at all, then you do not in fact view it as the woman’s choice.

I had a baby at 36 and at 37. I refused the amino because I was not planning to end my pregnancies if the baby was Downes. Also because of the increased risk of miscarriage with amino,

My GP, consultant and midwife all very supportive

Allira my Consultant was fine with my decision. I'd had my 3rd baby at 36, he offered amnio and I declined and said it was a waste of NHS resources as I was keeping the baby. He said not to worry about his budget, if it would help me to know in advance if there were problems. I said it wouldn't. The midwife who was with him told me they'd be there to support Mr whatever happened, she'd hold my hand through the amnio if I was worried or she'd be there if there was a problem when baby was born
They were lovely, I was due to see the Consultant but he was dealing with an emergency so I saw this young doctor. I was so upset and crying. Who do they think they are to.try to bully a woman into an abortion. The way he said were running out of time for the abortion when he didn't know if there was a problem.

So sorry you had that experience.

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50% of all current terminations in UK will be of females foetuses. Not quite sure what the ethical argument is against sex selection, as it will still be 50%.
As others have already pointed, termination for Downs Syndrome or other abnormalities is legal up to birth.

I had my babies in the nineties and we lived just outside London at the time. The technology to determine the sex of unborn babies was becoming more accurate by this time but the policy at our local hospital and others at this time was not to tell parents as there were a lot of Indian families in the area and it was well known that they would abort girl babies.

theworriedwell

Galaxy

I am sorry to hear that theworriedwell. Very different context but I was pressurised by my health visitor in the days after I gave birth ( it was around access to records about the birth) it is a deeply unsettling experience

It is, I suppose I dealt with it by thinking they meant well. The one that truly upset me was when I was pregnant at 38, I know never learn do I, and young doctor said I'd missed my amnio and we need to hurry up or it will be too late for an abortion. I told him I wasnt having it and wouldn't be having an abortion anyway. He was so abusive a midwife had to step in and shout at him to stop. I couldn't imagine he meant well. Whatever happened to a woman's right to choose.

Did you have the same Consultant as me?
No, my doctor wasn't young but most annoyed with me when the amnio didn't work (baby objected and must have kicked the needle out of the way!).
He tried to persuade me to have an abortion anyway and told me I was very foolish when I refused.

The Bible has a lot to say too, and the Quran too but that doesn’t stop people doing terrible things does it?

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I know, taking the trouble to fact check may seem boring to some. Is that how Trump got elected? All the drama, but no facts.
Fact checking is worth it, to get the balanced picture.

Very true 😁