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Israel to bar 37 aid groups as UK and EU warn of severe impact in Gaza
(109 Posts)I have felt that I - and the world - seems to have forgotten the plight of those in Gaza.
I want to bring them into the light and hope that somehow the forgotten are remembered and there can be some resolution.
But this latest action fills me with horror.
For god's sake, they are intending to ban Medicin Sans Frontiere amongst the groups. of all the internationally respected groups they have to be one of the most significant and they do not "play politics".
"Israel is to revoke the licences of 37 international non-governmental organisations (INGOs) working in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, saying they failed to meet requirements under new registration rules.
ActionAid, International Rescue Committee, Médecins Sans Frontières and Norwegian Refugee Council are among the aid agencies which will have their licences suspended on 1 January, with their operations to end within 60 days.
Israel said they had, among other things, failed to hand over "complete" personal details of their staff.
The INGOs said that could put them at risk.
The move was condemned by 10 countries, which said the rules would have a severe impact on access to essential services.
In a joint statement, the foreign ministers of the UK, France, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Japan, Norway, Sweden and Switzerland said INGOs were integral to the humanitarian response in Gaza and that any attempt to stem their ability to operate was "unacceptable".
The Humanitarian Country Team of the Occupied Palestinian Territory - a forum that brings together UN agencies and more than 200 local and international NGOs - urged the Israeli authorities to reconsider the registration decisions.
It has said INGOs run or support most of Gaza's field hospitals and primary healthcare centres, emergency shelter responses, water and sanitation services, nutrition stabilisation centres for children with acute malnutrition, and critical mine action activities
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1evp7weyv2o
btw, before someone slams the BBC for doing this as pro Palestinian as per ususal,
it has appeared in many newspapers - I've checked - but are behind a paywall, otherwise I would give you references
There are many aid organisations already in Gaza.
It is neither right nor justifiable to provide personal details of aid workers to Israel authorities.
Why is Israel still active in Gaza anyway? Why have they commandeered even more Gazan land with their ‘yellow line’? They provide no aid to the population yet are still killing Gazans , 400 plus since the so called ‘ceasefire’.
We have all seen the dreadful situation of how the people live, anyone with compassion would want to help, which is what the aid agencies do, given the chance.
It doesn’t care what you or anybody else thinks, it’s at war and has many enemies.
Yes if it totally ignores international law.
Israel is, as I said a pariah state.
The UN finding what it did, then sacking them speaks volumes.
Hardly ridiculous as it’s in the position to demand anything it wants of charity organisations.
Oreo
So? UNRA knew plenty about these individuals and chose to sack nine of them ….it found something alright.
That is not correct though is it.
The UN investigated, and found that 9 workers possibly had connections to Hamas. But no definitive evidence was found.
With regard to Israel’s demands over individual workers details.
We know that this is illegal, but also, as Israel has no sovereign right over Gaza, it makes its demands even more ridiculous.
Wyllow3 15.27: "I'm completely aghast that you think, for example, it's OK to ban Medicin Sans Frontiere. Their reputation precedes them throughout the world for the medical work they do, and just as important, their reports which cannot be quantified in terms of ££££, but reveal the truth of much of what has been happening, and the nature of its reliable and respected reportage. No wonder the current Israeli regime want to shut them up!"
You've hit the nail on the head in my view. Israel wants to cover up the truth and is just trying to keep MSF out of Gaza and shut them up. Those that support Israel's position in blocking MSF et al also seem to want that same goal, or at the very least are:
1) not voicing any concern about the huge decrease in humanitarian aid going into Gaza.
2) accepts what Isreal states as "truth" with regard to blocking agencies without wanting any facts and evidence to support Israel's position.
So? UNRA knew plenty about these individuals and chose to sack nine of them ….it found something alright.
Oreo
Whitewavemark2
Anniebach
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote CariadAgain Thu 01-Jan-26 11:16:35
Certainly I know of several organisations on that list Whitewave - ie that they are very reputable ones.
As was thought of re the UNRA before 7th October 2023Out of date information, and taken Israeli assertion at face value.
In October 2025, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that "Israel has not substantiated its allegations that a significant part of UNRWA's employees are 'members of Hamas… or other terrorist factions".UNRA investigated and then sacked nine of its members.There were probably others that they couldn’t prove had or hadn’t in my view.
There was no definitive evidence - that is the point. Israeli provided none, neither did the UN who sacked the 9 other than to say that they “may have been involved with Hamas”
It wouldn’t and didn’t stand up in a court of law.
Israel doesn’t know the nationality or political or religious affiliations of the staff of the charity organisations which is why it would prefer to know.
Given the situation in Gaza it could well be a problem for the Israeli military there, you don’t know, nor does anyone if there would be a problem.
I think in this case that it is right and justifiable, maybe not legal, for Israel to be shown personal data.
Oreo- Israel has provided no evidence that MSF or any other of the 37 agencies it has banned has any Palestine or Lebanese or Palestinian volunteers.
I don't agree that it would necessarily be a problem if there were Palestinian or Lebanese volunteers delivering aid into Gaza via these agencies either.
I don't think it's right, fair legal or justifiable for Israel to demand aid agencies break the law by sharing staff's legally protected personal data.
My view is that this is all a smokescreen by Israel to cut the highest volume of life saving aid delivered by these blocked agencies into Gaza. In my opinion Isreal's current stance morally bankrupt.
Wyllow3
Sorry, not ordeo, but Oreo. Unchecked typing!
It’s ok, a name is a name.
Medicin San Frontiere, could if it was really wanting to, release information to Israel about its staff but if protocols are more important to it than putting aid into Gaza ,as it seems, then that’s their call.
The Israeli military, understandably don’t want Palestinian or Lebanese or any citizens of the enemy countries they are surrounded by, entering Gaza with more of an agenda than delivering aid.
Fallingstar
Heinous actions need to be justified. Am sure Hamas have done this and so have the Israeli government. The difference in my opinion is that the former is a stateless terrorist organisation and the latter is a first world country supported by super power the US. Certainly the latter should present a morally superior position in all of this rather than sinking to the morally bankrupt position of terrorists and rogue nations, by allowing all possible aid into Gaza and seeking to rebuild the futures and towns that they decimated. Then peace might be possible.
Hamas were the legitimate government of Gaza actually, having first been voted for by the people and then refusing any more elections.We all know they’re terrorists but they were running Gaza until shortly after they invaded Israel and massacred over a thousand people.
Whitewavemark2
Anniebach
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote CariadAgain Thu 01-Jan-26 11:16:35
Certainly I know of several organisations on that list Whitewave - ie that they are very reputable ones.
As was thought of re the UNRA before 7th October 2023Out of date information, and taken Israeli assertion at face value.
In October 2025, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that "Israel has not substantiated its allegations that a significant part of UNRWA's employees are 'members of Hamas… or other terrorist factions".
UNRA investigated and then sacked nine of its members.There were probably others that they couldn’t prove had or hadn’t in my view.
Fallingstar: 'Certainly the latter (Israel supported by US) should present a morally superior position in all of this rather than sinking to the morally bankrupt position of terrorists and rogue nations, by allowing all possible aid into Gaza and seeking to rebuild the futures and towns that they decimated. Then peace might be possible".
Hear, Hear 👏.
Sorry meant to say cities and towns they decimated. Am on my phone.
Heinous actions need to be justified. Am sure Hamas have done this and so have the Israeli government. The difference in my opinion is that the former is a stateless terrorist organisation and the latter is a first world country supported by super power the US. Certainly the latter should present a morally superior position in all of this rather than sinking to the morally bankrupt position of terrorists and rogue nations, by allowing all possible aid into Gaza and seeking to rebuild the futures and towns that they decimated. Then peace might be possible.
Quote Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Jan-26 15:16:35
Anniebach
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote CariadAgain Thu 01-Jan-26 11:16:35
Certainly I know of several organisations on that list Whitewave - ie that they are very reputable ones.
As was thought of re the UNRA before 7th October 2023
Out of date information, and taken Israeli assertion at face value.
In October 2025, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that "Israel has not substantiated its allegations that a significant part of UNRWA's employees are 'members of Hamas… or other terrorist factions".
Allegations accepted by UNRWA ? really!
Sorry, not ordeo, but Oreo. Unchecked typing!
Lemonjam (and others)
Thank you so much for your research.
ordeo as others have pointed out, its not the £££ % that count with these organisations, its the crucial role they play.
I'm completely aghast that you think, for example, it's OK to ban Medicin Sans Frontiere. Their reputation precedes them throughout the world for the medical work they do,
and just as important, their reports which cannot be quantified in terms of ££££, but reveal the truth of much of what has been happening, and the nature of its reliable and respected reportage. No wonder the current Israeli regime want to shut them up!
Anniebach
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote CariadAgain Thu 01-Jan-26 11:16:35
Certainly I know of several organisations on that list Whitewave - ie that they are very reputable ones.
As was thought of re the UNRA before 7th October 2023
Out of date information, and taken Israeli assertion at face value.
In October 2025, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that "Israel has not substantiated its allegations that a significant part of UNRWA's employees are 'members of Hamas… or other terrorist factions".
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote CariadAgain Thu 01-Jan-26 11:16:35
Certainly I know of several organisations on that list Whitewave - ie that they are very reputable ones.
As was thought of re the UNRA before 7th October 2023
Grandmabatty
I read about this. What is happening in Gaza is just awful.
This government has forgotten World War II as he is repeating the same horrors that The Reich committed.
He belongs in prison.
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