I stand by my point though. There are villages in my area which experience considerable deprivation, this impacts their services, their schools, etc etc. The middle class tend not to buy houses there, and many many people transport their children to schools in the 'middle class' villages.
I am not saying this is a good thing but I am not going to pretend it isn't happening.
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(254 Posts)Britain’s media regulator Ofcom is under pressure to investigate a GB News interview with Donald Trump after complaints that it contained misleading and inaccurate claims that the network failed to challenge. The rightwing channel claimed a “world exclusive sit-down interview” with the US president in November, in which Trump asserted that human-induced climate change was “a hoax” and that London had no-go areas for police and that the capital had “sharia law”.
Trump made other claims about law and order and immigration that critics said were either left unchallenged or effectively endorsed by the GB News interviewer Bev Turner, the host of its US-based nightly show.
Among those calling for an investigation is Chris Banatvala, Ofcom’s founding director of standards. He said “I’ve never seen anything comparable on a UK-established domestic broadcaster”.
Ofcom officials have spent the last few weeks examining at least three detailed complaints co-signed by tens of thousands of people, but have not yet decided whether to launch a formal investigation. The regulator is facing increasing accusations that it is reluctant to intervene over politically difficult issues of impartiality.
The complaints point to rules stating broadcasters must not “materially mislead the audience” and rules around due impartiality. A complaint from Bob Ward, from the LSE’s Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, said: “The GB News interview with President Trump was the most blatant example of a British media organisation collaborating with the Trump administration to undermine British democracy with this misinformation.”
Complaints have also been made about Trump’s claim that London has areas “where the police don’t even want to go” and that “you have sharia law where they don’t even want to obey the laws of … your country”.
There was no challenge from the comments from Turner. When Trump said people are “being stabbed in the ass or worse”, she stated: “It’s true … It’s awful, it is. And it feels much safer [in the US].”
A complaint over a lack of impartiality from the 38 Degrees campaign group pointed to Turner “praising and endorsing Trump multiple times”. During the interview, she described a speech by Trump as “one of the greatest moments at the UN” and that she “loved it, it was brilliant”.
Galaxy
I stand by my point though. There are villages in my area which experience considerable deprivation, this impacts their services, their schools, etc etc. The middle class tend not to buy houses there, and many many people transport their children to schools in the 'middle class' villages.
I am not saying this is a good thing but I am not going to pretend it isn't happening.
There are villages everywhere like this, villages where prices are above others as they’re considered more desirable to live.
More attractive housing stock and pretty gardens draw in the more well off.
I was actually probably using the term 'middle class' in an vaguely unkind way when describing my village, it has an organised group of people who object to pretty much all new builds.
I actually love where I live but I also understand I am very lucky.
It’s only human to want to protect what you have isn’t it?
Yes.
(In response to original question.)
keepingquiet
Galaxy
I am glad I mentioned villages
You mentioned middle-class villages! That was my point. I don't really care about all the other kinds of villages, disappeared or not.
I don't know why MaizieD mentioned she was a local history buff (whatever that is) but she did.
I am not trying to prove anyone wrong- I just like to know why people make the assumption they do- is that wrong? Maybe it is- I'm frequently wrong about many things...
OK.
I was responding to this assertion which you made at 15.56 yesterday
Most villages existed before the advent of mining.
I was pointing out that in Co. Durham (in the NE) that most villages didn't exist before the advent of mining.
I don't know why MaizieD mentioned she was a local history buff
I was trying out the voice of authority 
Just to indicate that I do know what I am talking about. I have a History degree and my dissertation was a study of the development of a local mining community.
In the small valley I studied there are three villages and 2 smaller settlements which didn't exist (apart from a scattering of farms) before the development of coal mining in the mid 19thC.
This was absolutely typical of the whole Durham area.
The former mining settlements are not full of properties sought after by the middle classes. Though this is slowly changing as some have new housing estates built. or being built on the periphery. Like the gentrification of London over the years. At prices many locals couldn't afford...
Oh interesting dissertation, dh has worked in housing and regeneration for 30 + years, mostly in cities but for a period of time worked in one of the most deprived ex mining villages.
I have no idea what this has to do with GB news but I think the derail was my fault.
There are 4 churches in my area all mentioned in Doomsday.
One has a leper window and a leper hospital was also in operation during the medieval period near-by.
Just a bit of useless information😊
It was a welcome deviation really, Galaxy. But I do have a fatal tendency to argue... 
We don't get a mention in Domesday because William the Conker razed the North
We do have a 'Saxon' church fairly locally built with materials robbed from a handy deserted Roman fort 
We have a Roman fort, I may as well write down my address and be done with it.
There’s a bit of one upmanship going on here 😂
We have a Druid’s stone ring and altar ! 🤭
This has made me smile! I am also an Historian but don't like to brag lol! No one in my Local History class know this.
Yes, Oreo some one-upmanship of a sort.
I am rather glad Galaxy made her comment because at least it is more interesting than discussing GB news- which I still consider a crock of s***!
LemonJam
I have watched some GB news but found it too biased. I would welcome the investigation, Ofcom needs to do what it's set up to do.
Absolutely agree
Galaxy
We have a Roman fort, I may as well write down my address and be done with it.
There are loads of them, along the road from the South and along the Wall. I won't speculate any further 
keepingquiet
This has made me smile! I am also an Historian but don't like to brag lol! No one in my Local History class know this.
Yes, Oreo some one-upmanship of a sort.
I am rather glad Galaxy made her comment because at least it is more interesting than discussing GB news- which I still consider a crock of s***!
I would have expected a bit of solidarity 
There may have been a Roman road through our gardens, should buy a metal detector. There could be a fortune lying under there.
Oreo
We have a Druid’s stone ring and altar ! 🤭
I think that's Top Trumps!
Oh no, can we change that expression! 😲
Allira
Oreo
We have a Druid’s stone ring and altar ! 🤭
I think that's Top Trumps!
Oh no, can we change that expression! 😲
Of course we can, especially since I made up the Druid claim.🤭
Oreo
Allira
Oreo
We have a Druid’s stone ring and altar ! 🤭
I think that's Top Trumps!
Oh no, can we change that expression! 😲Of course we can, especially since I made up the Druid claim.🤭
Oh, you besom you! I believed you.
There is a neolithic longbarrow near here but it's not in my garden 😁
Whitewavemark2
There are 4 churches in my area all mentioned in Doomsday.
One has a leper window and a leper hospital was also in operation during the medieval period near-by.
Just a bit of useless information😊
There were probably many more. Churches only get a mention in Domesday if they were taxed separately from the associated manor. The Domesday book was essential a tax collectors return.
LemonJam
Britain’s media regulator Ofcom is under pressure to investigate a GB News interview with Donald Trump after complaints that it contained misleading and inaccurate claims that the network failed to challenge. The rightwing channel claimed a “world exclusive sit-down interview” with the US president in November, in which Trump asserted that human-induced climate change was “a hoax” and that London had no-go areas for police and that the capital had “sharia law”.
Trump made other claims about law and order and immigration that critics said were either left unchallenged or effectively endorsed by the GB News interviewer Bev Turner, the host of its US-based nightly show.
Among those calling for an investigation is Chris Banatvala, Ofcom’s founding director of standards. He said “I’ve never seen anything comparable on a UK-established domestic broadcaster”.
Ofcom officials have spent the last few weeks examining at least three detailed complaints co-signed by tens of thousands of people, but have not yet decided whether to launch a formal investigation. The regulator is facing increasing accusations that it is reluctant to intervene over politically difficult issues of impartiality.
The complaints point to rules stating broadcasters must not “materially mislead the audience” and rules around due impartiality. A complaint from Bob Ward, from the LSE’s Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, said: “The GB News interview with President Trump was the most blatant example of a British media organisation collaborating with the Trump administration to undermine British democracy with this misinformation.”
Complaints have also been made about Trump’s claim that London has areas “where the police don’t even want to go” and that “you have sharia law where they don’t even want to obey the laws of … your country”.
There was no challenge from the comments from Turner. When Trump said people are “being stabbed in the ass or worse”, she stated: “It’s true … It’s awful, it is. And it feels much safer [in the US].”
A complaint over a lack of impartiality from the 38 Degrees campaign group pointed to Turner “praising and endorsing Trump multiple times”. During the interview, she described a speech by Trump as “one of the greatest moments at the UN” and that she “loved it, it was brilliant”.
All social, and a lot of mainstream media, is biased. I don’t believe much of what’s online, and I wouldn't believe the Guardian any more than I would believe the DM, without lots of checks.
DiamondLily 16.48- some news media outlets, like GB news and you mention DM, perform much worse than others on bias and factual reporting metrics- don't take my word for it- see mediabiasfactcheck.com and other websites for evidence.
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