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Woman shot and killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota

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Syracute Thu 08-Jan-26 10:27:26

Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.

I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 12:06:00

Allira

^I’ve asked for my post to be removed as I realise it gives ‘access’ to my Instagram, which I’m not comfortable with - given the views and attitudes of a few posters on here.^

How can it do that? Are you sure?
That's worrying if so.

given the views and attitudes of a few posters on here.
What do you mean by that, exactly?

Views that don’t accord with LizzieDrip’s own presumably?

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 12:05:03

StoneofDestiny

Ronib
No matter what I think about the police in the UK, I understand that if an authority figure tells me to step out of the car, then that’s precisely what I need to do. No ifs or buts. If any lessons are learned from this situation, then politeness and obedience to a directive may one day save lives

Maybe post Sarah Everard many of us might not agree!

That was a one off that nobody including the victim could have foreseen.

Allira Sun 11-Jan-26 12:04:02

I’ve asked for my post to be removed as I realise it gives ‘access’ to my Instagram, which I’m not comfortable with - given the views and attitudes of a few posters on here.

How can it do that? Are you sure?
That's worrying if so.

given the views and attitudes of a few posters on here.
What do you mean by that, exactly?

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 12:03:47

There’s just no comparison LizzieDrip.

LizzieDrip Sun 11-Jan-26 12:00:23

The Jews in Germany were not, repeat not living there illegally they were German citizens quite often long standing ones of generations and generations

Oreo that is exactly the point made in the comment piece I mentioned above. The one in which I was apparently ‘lecturing’.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 12:00:14

StoneofDestiny 11.57 👍

StoneofDestiny Sun 11-Jan-26 11:57:41

Ronib
No matter what I think about the police in the UK, I understand that if an authority figure tells me to step out of the car, then that’s precisely what I need to do. No ifs or buts. If any lessons are learned from this situation, then politeness and obedience to a directive may one day save lives

Maybe post Sarah Everard many of us might not agree!

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:56:10

That’s true Galaxy but you know what forums are like, it’s trotted out as regularly as a drinking game.

StoneofDestiny Sun 11-Jan-26 11:55:49

We are all open to challenge - (apart from the US President and his cronies, who can only resort to insult rather than logic and morally defensible explanation!)

Galaxy Sun 11-Jan-26 11:53:02

To be fair there are zero parallels with most comparisons to Nazi Germany.

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:50:40

The Jews in Germany were not, repeat not living there illegally they were German citizens quite often long standing ones of generations and generations.
There is zilch parallels with the US government trying to root out illegal immigrants in their midst.

ronib Sun 11-Jan-26 11:49:13

No matter what I think about the police in the UK, I understand that if an authority figure tells me to step out of the car, then that’s precisely what I need to do. No ifs or buts. If any lessons are learned from this situation, then politeness and obedience to a directive may one day save lives. Don’t disrespect and disregard someone holding a weapon.

Galaxy Sun 11-Jan-26 11:47:38

Sorry that was a general post, not aimed at you Oreo.

Galaxy Sun 11-Jan-26 11:47:01

The fascists are the ones systematically murdering Jews across a number of countries. You are shouting far right in the wrong direction.

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:45:41

StoneofDestiny

*Oreo……**LizzieDrip you’re lecturing me, a Jew, on this?!*

Why Oreo - have you immunity from being challenged?

On not knowing anything about the Holocaust and Nazi Germany , definitely.

LizzieDrip Sun 11-Jan-26 11:44:51

Oreo I’m not “lecturing” anybody.

I’ve asked for my post to be removed as I realise it gives ‘access’ to my Instagram, which I’m not comfortable with - given the views and attitudes of a few posters on here.

For anyone interested, the piece is on Blossom Place on Instagram. It’s a ‘Raj Says: Thoughts and Understanding’ comment on 1930s-1940s Europe.

It’s not “lecturing” - it’s about thinking and trying to understand.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 11-Jan-26 11:43:02

ICE are not being compared to the Holocaust - that is an entirely separate issue and false equivalence.

ICE. Is being compared to a militia in 1930s Germany where a fascist authoritarian government was in power.

StoneofDestiny Sun 11-Jan-26 11:41:48

Oreo……*LizzieDrip you’re lecturing me, a Jew, on this?!*

Why Oreo - have you immunity from being challenged?

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:37:39

When any right wing government comes up with policies that aren’t universally liked forum members can’t wait to post their 1930 Nazi comparisons.
There are no same comparisons, none whatsoever to the Holocaust ( but they never seem to get this fact.)

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:33:33

LizzieDrip you’re lecturing me, a Jew, on this?!
The American public don’t need to stay silent they can protest lawfully as much as they want or as little as they want.
Many there are happy that illegal immigrants are being questioned and deported, and those who disagree can speak out freely as long as they don’t interfere.State Government can also speak out.

StoneofDestiny Sun 11-Jan-26 11:32:42

Scary

LizzieDrip Sun 11-Jan-26 11:27:21

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

StoneofDestiny Sun 11-Jan-26 11:23:05

Starfire57
Thank you / but I’m fairly well read on history, including US history.
The US white settlers were illegal settlers. Because something wasn’t written down in US Statutes doesn’t mean there was no law! US Law was made for the US! The Native Nations of North America had customary laws and sovereignty over their lands. The white settlers ignored that and laid claim to the land. They were trespassers and unwelcome as they trampled on Native culture and sensitivities. You still hear echoes of Manifest Destiny out off the mouths of some right wing Americans to this day.

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:22:43

I agree that all the evidence is not in as yet.

Syracute Sun 11-Jan-26 11:19:48

Excuse me a neighbour that was standing right in front of the incident as it happened,