imaround
Well if the DHS says it isn't happening, then it must be true. Despite evidence to the contrary from countless sources.
Oh sure, I'll believe some media outlet trying to make money on stories instead.....
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Woman shot and killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota
(985 Posts)Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.
I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.
Starfire57
Interesting thread here. Anyone actually live in the US? I do.
The illegal immigration problem has been around for a lot of years and especially in border states. I have seen on local news, the gangs, farmers getting shot by Mexican cartels in Texas, etc.
My particular state, before these new crackdowns, has had shootings by gangs, stabbings, drugs, etc. We learn to avoid certain areas with known gang activity whenever possible.
Local news, local police constantly busting gang related activities. Lots of drug and guns busts.
In the city next to mine, awhile back, reports of capturing leaders of cutthroat Mexican gangs. I mean, huge busts of leaders and the guns, drugs, etc.
Knowing they had caught one particular kingpin a few years ago in a city right next to mine was very unsettling; glad he was caught but knowing he was right next door so to speak was scary.
Local city police would show the busts in the media.
But lately, since they've cracked down, it seems a lot less reports crime from the gangs.
Some of the Mexicans here , thought, are very nice; many came legally. Others think they need to "take back" our western states, that they were "stolen" from Mexico.
But truth is, after the Mexican-American War, the Treaty of Hildalgo-Guadalupe showed that the US bought and paid Mexico for the states; also forgave any debts and allowed anyone who was Mexican instant citizenship if they wanted to stay.
Yet the claims still persist.
But, have definitely seen improvements since the crackdowns.
Before that I wondered if we should consider moving elsewhere.
As far as this latest event, I can't speak for intentions, but it did look like the ICE officer panicked when she was driving straight for him and just opened fire. It almost looks like after he fired the first shots , she swerved the car to the right and then continued until the crash into other cars.
Why she just didn't get out of the car, who knows. Contrary to popular media, legal citizens are not being arrested.
Sometimes someone may be taken in for questioning and released. I hear about this all the time on local news and message boards; people complain while others say it's necessary to get to the criminals.
There have been many protests, some peaceful, but I've also seen those who will try to get physical, and obstruct both officers, ICE and regular citizens on streets.
They risk themselves and others.
Would be nice if you named either the "city you live in" or "the state" so we can verify your claims independently.
I just looked up Visa Verge as I had never heard about it before. It looks to be a for profit group that helps immigrants come to the United States. Of course they are going to regurgitate what DHS says.
There is legal proof, in courts, that Citizens have been detained despite having valid proof of citizenship on their person at the time of arrest.
Starfire57
And detaining is much different than being arrested. People are claiming being arrested. The hearsay and misinformation out there is astounding.
Your problem is that there is so much out there on SM that witnesses ICE activities that we can see makes denying what they do a complete losers game.
I listened to Vance yesterday. I have never heard such nonsense, the man makes things up as he goes along just as he does when he comes to Europe and tries to tell us that we lack freedom of speech etc. He is either totally ignorant or a liar.
Well if the DHS says it isn't happening, then it must be true. Despite evidence to the contrary from countless sources. 
This citizen was held for 3 days.
ij.org/case/george-retes-federal-officer-accountability/
Here is the report from Congress that says immigrants without criminal histories are now the largest group in detention.
www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118692/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20251118-SD001.pdf
And detaining is much different than being arrested. People are claiming being arrested. The hearsay and misinformation out there is astounding.
There are no confirmed cases of being held for days and days. Some have been for a couple of hours, not days.
Detaining a suspect is not illegal btw; local and state authorities do it all the time in other crime situations.
And yes, I do live in the US.
There have been at least 170 citizens detained illegally by ICE.
www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will
Interesting thread here. Anyone actually live in the US? I do.
The illegal immigration problem has been around for a lot of years and especially in border states. I have seen on local news, the gangs, farmers getting shot by Mexican cartels in Texas, etc.
My particular state, before these new crackdowns, has had shootings by gangs, stabbings, drugs, etc. We learn to avoid certain areas with known gang activity whenever possible.
Local news, local police constantly busting gang related activities. Lots of drug and guns busts.
In the city next to mine, awhile back, reports of capturing leaders of cutthroat Mexican gangs. I mean, huge busts of leaders and the guns, drugs, etc.
Knowing they had caught one particular kingpin a few years ago in a city right next to mine was very unsettling; glad he was caught but knowing he was right next door so to speak was scary.
Local city police would show the busts in the media.
But lately, since they've cracked down, it seems a lot less reports crime from the gangs.
Some of the Mexicans here , thought, are very nice; many came legally. Others think they need to "take back" our western states, that they were "stolen" from Mexico.
But truth is, after the Mexican-American War, the Treaty of Hildalgo-Guadalupe showed that the US bought and paid Mexico for the states; also forgave any debts and allowed anyone who was Mexican instant citizenship if they wanted to stay.
Yet the claims still persist.
But, have definitely seen improvements since the crackdowns.
Before that I wondered if we should consider moving elsewhere.
As far as this latest event, I can't speak for intentions, but it did look like the ICE officer panicked when she was driving straight for him and just opened fire. It almost looks like after he fired the first shots , she swerved the car to the right and then continued until the crash into other cars.
Why she just didn't get out of the car, who knows. Contrary to popular media, legal citizens are not being arrested.
Sometimes someone may be taken in for questioning and released. I hear about this all the time on local news and message boards; people complain while others say it's necessary to get to the criminals.
There have been many protests, some peaceful, but I've also seen those who will try to get physical, and obstruct both officers, ICE and regular citizens on streets.
They risk themselves and others.
I know I promised I won't. Post again, but this is important. Renee Good in Minneapolis is the 5th person they have killed in the last 5 months.
A lady in Chicago was shot last month and also did not receive help.
www.themarshallproject.org/2026/01/07/ice-minneapolis-shooting-renee-good
Ok, here is clarity and I will stop until I get home from my club later tonight.
Agents shot 2 people in their car at one location. The driver of the vehicle then drove away. Someone found them bleeding and called for an ambulance.
Right now the narrative is that these 2 people, a husband and wife, are part of the Venezuelan gang and they had a warrant for them both.
The FBI has taken over the investigation and will issue propaganda a statement soon.
Ok, here is the narrative from DHS. These 2 people are bad gang members and tried to run over agents, then fled the scene. I am seeing reports that the FBI has already taken over the investigation.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/08/two-wounded-in-shooting-involving-border-patrol-agents-in-portland/88091886007/
I think I saw that Walz has activated the National Guard because the protests there are getting heated in Minnesota. This Portland shooting isn't going to help.
I am a bit confused about this until more information comes out. They way Instead this, I would believe that Customs agents shot 2 people, then left the scene and one of the victims called 911 for help.
Please for the love that all that is holy, I hope that is not true.
*This news station says that agent shot 2 people and the man shot was the one who called 911. More to come.
katu.com/news/local/ice-shoots-two-people-in-portlandoregon
And they shot 2 people in Portland. This was Customs and Border Patrol agents. I have no idea on any details on this yet, so just passing this story on.
www.alternet.org/federal-agents-portland-shooting/
Magenta "This was a mother of three who was a devout Christian and lived peacefully with her partner and family. It is thought that she was on a school run when she came across the ICE thugs. Research into her background shows that her only previous transgression was a minor traffic offence"
this is going to really get to fellow churchgoers unless they are "Christian Nationalists" types.
He should have shot at the tyres. Still dangerous, but not so deadly.
And the man who shot her was shooting at her while the car was moving. What sort of idiot shoots the driver of a moving car? I f there had been bystanders it could have caused carnage. The car that it eventually crashed into was someone's property. Will they be compensated or will ICE find away to make it their own fault?
This was a mother of three who was a devout Christian and lived peacefully with her partner and family. It is thought that she was on a school run when she came across the ICE thugs. Research into her background shows that her only previous transgression was a minor traffic offence.
Very quickly and with no foundation, she was publicly demonised as being a known violent left wing terrorist.
I don't know what Katie Hopkins and Jim Davidson, two of the UK's most vociferous supporters of Trump, have to say about it and I have no intention of finding out.
When is this madness going to end?
This is a disgrace, there was no justification for this at all. The video showed clearly what happened.
The thug who did this arrogantly walked down the road gesticulating to a woman calling out Shame. He certainly had none.
A six year old was taken to school by his Mother, he will now know he will grow up without one, politics aside that is the real tragedy.
Shame on anyone who even tries to justify this. I wonder what the posters who stated they liked Trump think about this. I hope they have changed their minds.
To sum up, ICE are mindless thugs, and it is only a matter of time before this happened.
I think Vance just alluded that the officer in the video here who was dragged by a car and the officer who shot this woman is the same officer. I have not confirmed that at all and wouldn't be surprised if Vance is lying out his ass.
www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/video/shocking-footage-shows-driver-dragging-deportation-officer/
Which now may lead further questions about the legality of the arrests being made, which are in violation of the 4th Amendment. If the officer is breaking the law and violating constitutional rights by breaking the window, does he get to be a victim? Total gray area that I don't care to debate because, again, I am not a judge or jury.
This is going to get tricky if it ever makes it to a court. The corrupt government wont allow it though.
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