Iranian Revolution

Oreo

They’ll be kept for execution later on.

This sounds about right. Iran will hold off with executions for now but is no doubt they will resume at a later date.

I noticed and thought "They're not going to murder that protestor after all - good". But I guess it wouldnt surprise me if they're waiting for some distraction or other and then they'll murder him.

Though - goodness knows our own Government doesn't have clean hands right now - as it became very clear they were going to let the hunger strikers starve to death. It made me feel bad about being British to have to say to people "Yep...they will do that....they are prepared to see them starve". Guess I'd thought there are some lengths they wouldnt go to - but yep....they were prepared to.

They’ll be kept for execution later on.

Interested to see how Iran is simply not executing any protestors this week. Keeps Donald on the bench.

ronib

Thanks Mamie but Tony Blair will always be linked to events which led to the start of the Iraqi war.

But not the aftermath which was the topic under discussion.

Thanks Mamie but Tony Blair will always be linked to events which led to the start of the Iraqi war.

ronib

Tony Blair ?

Nice try Ronib.
After the 2003 invasion, the US led the post-war administration through the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), installing its own leadership while the UK focused on reconstruction, especially in the south, though British efforts faced resource issues and coordination problems with the predominantly American planning, with the US ultimately holding primary command.

Today it looks like Trump isnt going to get involved in Iran, the staged pro governments and refusal of neighbouring countries to allow US to use their airspace clinched it.

Now he can concentrate on harrassing Greenland

Freya5

Cossy

Fallingstar

I think I meant sceptical rather than cynical. But both describe my thoughts on the ex Shah’s son.

Perhaps they genuinely believe that they will be better off

Anything better than living under a tyrannical Islamist theocracy.

Sure is!

Reza Pahlavi has said that he is offering himself as a transitional leader in anticipation of democratic government in Iran. Someone needed to step into that role. He is communicating clearly with the Iranian population and with world leaders to move things forward.

Cossy

Fallingstar

So many have been killed and so many detained, brave souls. I hope they manage to overthrow the regime before Trump descends in a blaze of glory.

Me too

If only Trump would descend in a blaze of glory, the worry for the Iranians is that he’ll do nothing at all to help their case.

Fallingstar

Freya5
Well it does seem that way, but in 1979 many Iranians probably thought anything was better than living under the heel of the Shah.
Quite often it can be out of the frying pan and into the fire. If the majority want Reza Pahlavi back as Shah then they should make it on condition that there is also a democratically elected government and PM.
As in the UK.

Democracy in Iran is highly unlikely anytime soon there are too many extremists in the region, every country in the region (except Israel) is some kind of military dictatorship

The choice is a government trading freely and peacefully or a government under sanctions backed by China, The present Iranian elite are quite happy controlling the population by force.

Freya5
Well it does seem that way, but in 1979 many Iranians probably thought anything was better than living under the heel of the Shah.
Quite often it can be out of the frying pan and into the fire. If the majority want Reza Pahlavi back as Shah then they should make it on condition that there is also a democratically elected government and PM.
As in the UK.

Cossy

Fallingstar

I think I meant sceptical rather than cynical. But both describe my thoughts on the ex Shah’s son.

Perhaps they genuinely believe that they will be better off

Anything better than living under a tyrannical Islamist theocracy.

SORES

this situation causes me to appreciate our beleagured Monarchy, ‘occupying a space so that others can not’

and “Not without my Daughter” - with a totally believable
Sally Field as Betty Mahmoody

An aunt of dh told us of a real ‘Not without my daughter’. IIRC it was in the 50s when she and dh’s uncle were living and working in Iran - IIRC he was a mining engineer.

A Brit friend of theirs, married to an Iranian, was in the same position - badly wanted to leave, since her dh (who she’d met in the U.K.) had turned very strictly controlling, and would never have allowed her to leave without their young child.

Dh’s aunt and uncle eventually smuggled her and her child out of the country via some difficult and very hazardous route. And by all accounts endlessly dreading the car breaking down, since no help would have been available.
But they succeeded.

Who is David? If you mean Reform, then I have to agree.

David49

Whitewavemark2

On the coat tails of the USA though.

Now they are on the coattails of the Russians and Chinese, is that better?

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Whitewavemark2

On the coat tails of the USA though.

Now they are on the coattails of the Russians and Chinese, is that better?

On the coat tails of the USA though.

ronib

Tony Blair ?

& TB, sadly

Fallingstar

So many have been killed and so many detained, brave souls. I hope they manage to overthrow the regime before Trump descends in a blaze of glory.

Me too

It was reported in the Guardian today that the Revolutionary Guard broke into a hospital and beat patients and doctors. So much for the mullahs' version of Islam. We are seeing an unarmed desperate people trying to overthrow a despotic, brutal government. They need help.

Tony Blair ?

Fallingstar

If the US and Israel decide to strike Iran that has been floated as a possibility, won’t they kill innocent Iranians as well as the intended target?
Am really not sure about this.

The USA have an appalling record once these strikes have taken place. The population is left in a ruined country and economy, with no aid from the aggressor.

The Middle East has been unstable since Iraq, and much of what we have seen is a result of the USA’s actions.

Maremia

The Ukrainians trusted the USA to keep their promise to keep them safe.

And I think all other allies in the west should learn from this.