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Trump’s interview with the NYT

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 09-Jan-26 12:18:49

I have copied and pasted for those that are interested.

Sitting behind his desk in the Oval Office, where he keeps a model of the B-2 bombers used in last year’s strike on Iran’s nuclear program, Trump told The New York Times that the United States would remain in charge of Venezuela for as long as he wanted — maybe for years. He said he wouldn’t be happy with anything short of “ownership” of Greenland. He said Europe had to “shape up” and that NATO was useless without the United States.

And he said that he did not feel constrained by any international laws, norms, checks or balances.

Asked by my colleagues if there were any limits on his ability to use American military might, he said: “Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.”

“I don’t need international law,” he added. “I’m not looking to hurt people.”

It was the most blunt acknowledgment yet of Trump’s worldview: It is national strength alone that should be the deciding factor when nations’ interests collide. Past U.S. presidents, he believes, have been too cautious when it comes to exercising American power.

Trump sounded emboldened by his recent successful Venezuela operation. He was dismissive of the norms of the post-World War II order, which the United States helped establish, as an unnecessary burden.

Asked whether his actions might provide a precedent in Ukraine or Taiwan, he shrugged off the idea. President Xi Jinping of China, he said, wouldn’t dare attack Taiwan on his watch.

“He may do it after we have a different president, but I don’t think he’s going to do it with me as president,” he said.

We’ve rounded up some more highlights from the interview below. You can follow our coverage here.

Venezuela

Trump said he expected that the United States would run Venezuela and extract oil from its huge reserves for years, insisting that the interim government of the country — run by loyalists aligned with the now-imprisoned Nicolás Maduro — is “giving us everything that we feel is necessary.”

“We will rebuild it in a very profitable way,” Trump said. “We’re going to be using oil, and we’re going to be taking oil. We’re getting oil prices down, and we’re going to be giving money to Venezuela, which they desperately need.”

Yesterday, the Senate voted to take up a resolution that would rein in Trump’s power to use military force in Venezuela, a striking rebuke. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky said the president’s comments to The New York Times may have tipped the vote.

Greenland

Trump talked about his designs on Greenland, which is controlled by Denmark, a NATO ally.

It was not enough, in his view, to exercise the U.S. right, under a 1951 treaty, to reopen long-closed military bases on the huge landmass.

“Ownership is very important,” Trump said.“Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success. I think that ownership gives you a thing that you can’t do with, you’re talking about a lease or a treaty. Ownership gives you things and elements that you can’t get from just signing a document.”

When asked which was his higher priority, obtaining Greenland or preserving NATO, Trump declined to answer directly, but acknowledged that “it may be a choice.”

Ukraine

Trump told my colleagues that he was ready to commit to the United States being involved in Ukraine’s future defense, but only because he was confident that Russia would not try to invade the country again. “I feel strongly they wouldn’t re-invade, or I wouldn’t agree to it,” Trump said.

Trump’s comments went further than he has before in signaling his openness to sign up for such a commitment, at least in a supporting role.

They also showed that Trump remained convinced of President Vladimir Putin’s professed desire for peace, despite Russia’s demonstrated unwillingness to end the war after nearly a year of negotiations with the United States. “I think he wants to make a deal,” he said.

In a departure from his practice last year, Trump declined to say how quickly he hoped to end the war. “We’re doing the best we can. I don’t have a timeline.”

Colombia

During the interview, Trump took a lengthy call from President Petro of Colombia, who was clearly concerned after repeated threats that Trump was considering an attack on the country similar to the one on Venezuela. Trump invited my colleagues to stay and listen, though what they heard was off the record.

“Well, we are in danger,” Petro told a separate set of my colleagues just before the Trump call. “Because the threat is real. It was made by Trump.”

The ICE shooting

On Wednesday, just hours before the interview, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent shot a 37-year-old woman in Minneapolis. Trump said she had been at fault because she had tried to “run over” the officer.

Trump stuck to his position even as my colleagues pointed out the inconsistencies in his account and the lack of clarity in videos circulating on social media. “She behaved horribly,” Trump said. “And then she ran him over. She didn’t try to run him over. She ran him over.”

After the interview, a Times analysis of footage from three camera angles showed the motorist had been driving away from — not toward — a federal officer when he opened fire. The Times analysis showed that the officer had not actually been run over.

Norah Fri 09-Jan-26 12:23:59

Asked by my colleagues if there were any limits on his ability to use American military might, he said: “Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.” “I don’t need international law,” he added. “I’m not looking to hurt people.”

Oh dear, his definition of morality, hurting people??

imaround Fri 09-Jan-26 12:24:36

The Trump apologists will be here soon, I am sure.

Maremia Fri 09-Jan-26 12:38:09

I misread that. I thought he said his own 'mortality', because , yes, that would be one ending to the situation.

eazybee Fri 09-Jan-26 12:42:00

Thank you for this.

Ownership is very important,” Trump said.“Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success. I think that ownership gives you a thing that you can’t do with, (?) you’re talking about a lease or a treaty. Ownership gives you things and elements that you can’t get from just signing a document.

I have posted elsewhere that Trump is out of control.
He acknowledges no higher power than himself, ignoring his limited experience in world affairs and indeed government. Surrounded by sycophants,far too many from his own circle, he believes he can do as he chooses, and at present, he can, using the power, prestige and wealth that previous governments have accumulated.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 09-Jan-26 12:50:32

Yes I do agree that Trump is out of control.

Mamie Fri 09-Jan-26 13:13:39

Whitewavemark2

Yes I do agree that Trump is out of control.

I am not sure if he is out of control or being controlled by others?

keepingquiet Fri 09-Jan-26 13:51:02

Trump isn't putting America first. America is rapidly becoming a pariah state because of him.

He is only, and only ever has been interested in putting himself first.

When he goes the others will jump like rats from a sinking ship...

There maybe some popping up to defend him on here, we shall see...

AGAA4 Fri 09-Jan-26 15:07:59

I believe there is some control by others. I don't trust Stephen Miller and others in his circle.
I think they know how to get what they want from him.
I remember the notorious Zelensky incident where it was Vance who took the lead in the bullying (unheard of by previous vice presidents )

Furret Fri 09-Jan-26 15:20:38

I always thought the AntiChrist would be intelligent,

keepingquiet Fri 09-Jan-26 16:14:58

AGAA4

I believe there is some control by others. I don't trust Stephen Miller and others in his circle.
I think they know how to get what they want from him.
I remember the notorious Zelensky incident where it was Vance who took the lead in the bullying (unheard of by previous vice presidents )

I'm not so sure. I don't think they are controlling him- they are sychophants who have sacrificed their political lives on his altar and now have no where else to turn but to keep the circus going.

fancythat Fri 09-Jan-26 17:18:12

I dont think he is being controlled either.

I do think he may not be interested in physically hurting people.
We shall see.

Part of the reason I mentioned their technology[compared to other Countries] on another thread.

Cossy Fri 09-Jan-26 17:24:39

I’m so completely horrified by Trump.

Everything he does and everything he says is just so appalling and extremely scary

Smileless2012 Fri 09-Jan-26 17:41:04

He's trashed America's reputation and I'm not sure that the country will ever regain the prestige it once had.

Mamie Fri 09-Jan-26 17:52:36

fancythat

I dont think he is being controlled either.

I do think he may not be interested in physically hurting people.
We shall see.

Part of the reason I mentioned their technology[compared to other Countries] on another thread.

You don't think Stephen Miller has a lot of influence? He is certainly no sycophant. This is from Wikipedia.
"Miller advised both of Trump's presidential campaigns. After Trump's loss in the 2020 election, Miller founded America First Legal, a conservative legal advocacy organization, in April 2021.
Miller has been a central figure in the Trump administration's immigration policy, including the family separation policy and Executive Order 13769, which restricted travel from several Muslim-majority countries. As director of speechwriting, he supervised the writing of Trump's inaugural and State of the Union addresses. Miller is on the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of extremists"

Could you explain what technologies you mean? Just military or more than that?

keepingquiet Fri 09-Jan-26 22:50:43

Do you think Miller is planning to depose Trump? If not then why isn't he a sychophant?

Mamie Sat 10-Jan-26 04:47:34

Strangely enough I have no idea of the level of obsequiousness
towards Trump in private, but I don't doubt that the importance of the influence of his ideas far outstrips his official role.

foxie48 Sat 10-Jan-26 08:28:55

Trump is totally complicit but I do think Miller is loading Trump's gun and doing the more detailed work behind the scenes. The mid terms can't come soon enough, I really hope that the Democrats make enough gains to have a majority in at least one of the houses because I think there are more Republicans who will vote against Trump.

Cossy Sat 10-Jan-26 08:34:51

foxie48

Trump is totally complicit but I do think Miller is loading Trump's gun and doing the more detailed work behind the scenes. The mid terms can't come soon enough, I really hope that the Democrats make enough gains to have a majority in at least one of the houses because I think there are more Republicans who will vote against Trump.

Let’s hope then that some of the USA citizens previously voting for Trump have realised what a nightmare madman he is and refrain from voting for him again and that the Democrats who didn’t get up and vote last time around get up and vote.

There’s no other way that the midterms can change anything unless voters do!

foxie48 Sat 10-Jan-26 09:12:08

Well, the influence of MTG will possibly affect some Maga voters, I think lots of Latino voters will have been totally spooked by ICE operations and hopefully there will be more moderate Republicans who will either fail to turn out or switch sides. I think we have to have hope that there will be an end to Trump's madness although IMO he will have changed the US forever.

Maremia Sat 10-Jan-26 11:21:35

Yes, Cossy, it will be up to the voters.
By the time mid-terms come along, many more will be struggling with health care costs. Unemployment is rising.
Just hope that the mid-terms do actually happen.

BlessedArt Sat 10-Jan-26 11:34:13

Norah

^Asked by my colleagues if there were any limits on his ability to use American military might, he said: “Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.” “I don’t need international law,” he added. “I’m not looking to hurt people.”^

Oh dear, his definition of morality, hurting people??

He has openly stated that he understands that if heaven exists, he wouldn’t be admitted. That says it all regarding his “morality”.

BlessedArt Sat 10-Jan-26 11:37:48

foxie48

Well, the influence of MTG will possibly affect some Maga voters, I think lots of Latino voters will have been totally spooked by ICE operations and hopefully there will be more moderate Republicans who will either fail to turn out or switch sides. I think we have to have hope that there will be an end to Trump's madness although IMO he will have changed the US forever.

MTG has been turned on by the MAGA cult.

She and her family receive regular threats from them.

She woke up. Now they hate her.

Trump fanned those flames. He continues to do so.

BlessedArt Sat 10-Jan-26 11:40:13

imaround

The Trump apologists will be here soon, I am sure.

You mean the neo-imperialists? That’s really what his defenders are. Some just don’t have the courage to admit it.

Syracute Sat 10-Jan-26 12:57:53

There are a lot of good comments on this thread .
Trump is a clear and present danger to Democracy as he his actions and words are to empower himself and ignore laws as his needs dictate . His words and actions in the NYT article underlines this.