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Snooping government new policy to monitor your messages.

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Sueinkent Sun 11-Jan-26 11:05:59

See below.

Sueinkent Sun 11-Jan-26 11:07:08

Applies to Whatsapp, Messenger and any DMs on X etc.

Oreo Sun 11-Jan-26 11:11:52

That’s ok, my messages are harmless.
If it catches criminals, deviants or wannabe terrorists that’s fine with me.

paddyann54 Sun 11-Jan-26 11:22:08

So …if any of us don’t agree with Trump or Netanyahu will we end up in jail?
Think about it,police are lifting pensioners off the streets for supporting Palestine!
Thankfully some Scottish police have resigned because of this absurdity.Its an English law and should not have been forced on them.
Let’s hope that common sense prevails ,supporting Palestine is NOT antisemitism
Not according to the Jewish community here who march with us.
Big brother is stay out of contro….this is a step too far .

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 11:22:28

Sueinkent- Who or what is ReclaimTheNetHQ? Are you a member?

Is it your case that Ofcom is handed the power to scan encrypted chats under the online safety act or more the case you take the word of Reclaim the Net?

I ask because I understand your post is not factually correct, i.e. Ofcom won't have powers to directly scan messages but rather gives Ofcom powers to compel tech companies to scan encrypted chats for illegal content, particularly Child Exploitation and Abuse material.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 11-Jan-26 11:23:31

LemonJam

Sueinkent- Who or what is ReclaimTheNetHQ? Are you a member?

Is it your case that Ofcom is handed the power to scan encrypted chats under the online safety act or more the case you take the word of Reclaim the Net?

I ask because I understand your post is not factually correct, i.e. Ofcom won't have powers to directly scan messages but rather gives Ofcom powers to compel tech companies to scan encrypted chats for illegal content, particularly Child Exploitation and Abuse material.

That is my understanding.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 11:26:30

ReclaimTheNetHQ fake news....

nanna8 Sun 11-Jan-26 11:29:14

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

petra Sun 11-Jan-26 11:33:07

SueinKent
Do you understand what encrypted means ?
This article explains what is going to happen. www.computerweekly.com/feature/The-UKs-Online-Safety-Act-explained-what-you-need-to-know

OldFrill Sun 11-Jan-26 11:35:54

paddyann54

So …if any of us don’t agree with Trump or Netanyahu will we end up in jail?
Think about it,police are lifting pensioners off the streets for supporting Palestine!
Thankfully some Scottish police have resigned because of this absurdity.Its an English law and should not have been forced on them.
Let’s hope that common sense prevails ,supporting Palestine is NOT antisemitism
Not according to the Jewish community here who march with us.
Big brother is stay out of contro….this is a step too far .

I think Labour (party) Officers resigned - 15 of them, not police officers. Apologies if I'm wrong.

Allira Sun 11-Jan-26 11:36:25

I think the aim is to clamp down on child pornography as LemonJam has said.

I'm sure none of us could disagree with that.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 11:41:41

Doesn't look like Sueinkent posted something not factually correct but doesn't want to engage in debate...

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 11-Jan-26 12:05:48

LemonJam

ReclaimTheNetHQ fake news....

But fake news some were delighted to believe. Isn't that why we are were we are. Perhaps I shouldn't mention Brexit, Farage, Trump, etc. wink

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 11-Jan-26 12:08:06

nanna8

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

Could you support thst with facts - ones that can be fact checked? I doubt it.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 12:13:51

DAR 12.05 👍

DAR 12.08- this is how propaganda and fake news takes hold- no facts put forward to check and verify

Allira Sun 11-Jan-26 12:21:16

DaisyAnneReturns

nanna8

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

Could you support thst with facts - ones that can be fact checked? I doubt it.

Easy to Google and find out that there are several arrests daily for posts of varying kinds on social media, some resulting in jail sentences.

Many are terrorism related. Others are considered to be racist or hate speech.

nanna8 Sun 11-Jan-26 12:26:05

Some only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They don’t know about google, obviously. Can’t be bothered arguing with them.

David49 Sun 11-Jan-26 12:32:20

It should have been done ages ago, only those with subversive or criminal intent are benefiting from encryption. The security services and monitoring thousands of accounts already and catching a lot, everything from child porn to terrorists.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 12:34:59

Yes- Online Safety Act gives Ofcom powers to compel tech companies to scan encrypted chats for illegal content, not only for Child Exploitation and Abuse material but also for things such as Counter Terrorism Policing.

UK counter-terrorism efforts continue to focus on online spaces, e.g. with cases like Zakir Hussain, jailed for supporting Hamas and Hizballah on X, Oliver William Rea and Muhammed Bham charged with planning to join ISIS and disseminate terror material.

The recent era has seen shifts in moderation policies by platforms like X and Meta that lead to less oversight. Hence the UK Online Safety Act.

LemonJam Sun 11-Jan-26 12:45:40

I sit frequently in police interviews supporting and advising those arrested.

The shift to digital space crime is noticeable and increasing exponentially. Online crime significantly impacts the UK by shifting traditional offences into the digital realm, like fraud, stalking, theft and creates new threats (like ransomware, data breaches etc) and affects millions of individuals and businesses. Cyber related crime strains law enforcement (who face resource constraints) and amplifies harm and victimisation.

Cyber crime has surpassed street crime (ONS) as criminals can more easily hide their identities and locations.

Wyllow3 Sun 11-Jan-26 12:47:29

nanna8

Some only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They don’t know about google, obviously. Can’t be bothered arguing with them.

nanna, this is the government changing their approach, reinforcing targeting who really needs to be. Not more of the same. Many explicit statements as to this change of approach and why are clear.

I'm particularly pleased it's setting. out to protect the most vulnerable against the worst monstrosities of SM.

Iam64 Sun 11-Jan-26 12:51:57

If this helps reduce child sexual exploitation, cyber crime, terrorism why would we oppose it

If individuals break laws on eg hate speech, it’s right they face the consequences. If the Donald lived here maybe he’d face a consequence

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Jan-26 12:57:24

Iam64

If this helps reduce child sexual exploitation, cyber crime, terrorism why would we oppose it

If individuals break laws on eg hate speech, it’s right they face the consequences. If the Donald lived here maybe he’d face a consequence

Indeed so.

Freya5 Sun 11-Jan-26 13:42:39

paddyann54

So …if any of us don’t agree with Trump or Netanyahu will we end up in jail?
Think about it,police are lifting pensioners off the streets for supporting Palestine!
Thankfully some Scottish police have resigned because of this absurdity.Its an English law and should not have been forced on them.
Let’s hope that common sense prevails ,supporting Palestine is NOT antisemitism
Not according to the Jewish community here who march with us.
Big brother is stay out of contro….this is a step too far .

Police are lifting people of the street for feeding pigeons.
At least that is not proscribed, as the Palestine lot are. Yet.

Doodledog Sun 11-Jan-26 13:47:33

Can you link to a credible source for the allegation that people are being 'lifted off the streets' for feeding pigeons, please?

There were arrests for lies and incitement to violence on SM during riots, but 'lifting people off the streets' is a new one on my, particularly for feeding pigeons😳. I'd be very interested to see where this has been reported.