Snooping government new policy to monitor your messages.

I'm not at all bothered if anyone listens to my conversations or reads anything I've typed online.
It would be very boring for them.

CariadAgain- ot reassure you, the Online Safety Act places a duty on tech companies to scan encrypted messages for illegal content, e.g. Child Exploitation and Abuse material, Terrorist material, cyber crime material- in the interprets of public safety. This is timely because the tech companies moderation policies have become increasingly lax which is a risk to public safety. It would help enormously if the tech companies had fit for purpose moderation policies- then perhaps the Act would not be necessary.

Freedom of speech is legal is the UK- and the Online Safety Act duty is solely in relation to "criminal activity".

nanna8

Some only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They don’t know about google, obviously. Can’t be bothered arguing with them.

Should have gone to Specsavers

OH knows two people who have been involved in the online safety legislation, one has had his family directly and tragically affected by a member of his family being given access to unsuitable and dangerous material. They have both said that it is a difficult line to tread between preventing dangerous criminals from having access online to our children and vulnerable adults and protecting the privacy of the ordinary person. (my paraphrasing, obviously) Frankly I'd rather err on the side of ruffling a few feathers than allowing criminals completely free access to the online world so they can target people.

I find this a worrying development - especially given that people these days are sometimes being treated as criminals just for exercising our British right to "freedom of speech".

It has become shockingly frequent for individuals/organisations/etc to monitor peoples private conversations - and most of the time those conversations are not going to be genuinely illegal or genuinely shocking. Goodness knows I've been called something I'm not at all before now - including on here - just because of some other peoples personal opinions being different to my (perfectly legal) opinions.

So - yep...I know monitoring of private conversations has been going on for literally decades (still remember private CND phonecalls - including one or two of mine!!!!! - obviously having a "spy on the line" back in the 1980s).

So tech companies have scanned encrypted messages for illegal content and decided to report people for feeding pigeons on the street 🤭😅😅 hilarious!

Can you link to a credible source for the allegation that people are being 'lifted off the streets' for feeding pigeons, please?

There were arrests for lies and incitement to violence on SM during riots, but 'lifting people off the streets' is a new one on my, particularly for feeding pigeons😳. I'd be very interested to see where this has been reported.

paddyann54

So …if any of us don’t agree with Trump or Netanyahu will we end up in jail?
Think about it,police are lifting pensioners off the streets for supporting Palestine!
Thankfully some Scottish police have resigned because of this absurdity.Its an English law and should not have been forced on them.
Let’s hope that common sense prevails ,supporting Palestine is NOT antisemitism
Not according to the Jewish community here who march with us.
Big brother is stay out of contro….this is a step too far .

Police are lifting people of the street for feeding pigeons.
At least that is not proscribed, as the Palestine lot are. Yet.

Iam64

If this helps reduce child sexual exploitation, cyber crime, terrorism why would we oppose it

If individuals break laws on eg hate speech, it’s right they face the consequences. If the Donald lived here maybe he’d face a consequence

Indeed so.

If this helps reduce child sexual exploitation, cyber crime, terrorism why would we oppose it

If individuals break laws on eg hate speech, it’s right they face the consequences. If the Donald lived here maybe he’d face a consequence

nanna8

Some only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They don’t know about google, obviously. Can’t be bothered arguing with them.

nanna, this is the government changing their approach, reinforcing targeting who really needs to be. Not more of the same. Many explicit statements as to this change of approach and why are clear.

I'm particularly pleased it's setting. out to protect the most vulnerable against the worst monstrosities of SM.

I sit frequently in police interviews supporting and advising those arrested.

The shift to digital space crime is noticeable and increasing exponentially. Online crime significantly impacts the UK by shifting traditional offences into the digital realm, like fraud, stalking, theft and creates new threats (like ransomware, data breaches etc) and affects millions of individuals and businesses. Cyber related crime strains law enforcement (who face resource constraints) and amplifies harm and victimisation.

Cyber crime has surpassed street crime (ONS) as criminals can more easily hide their identities and locations.

Yes- Online Safety Act gives Ofcom powers to compel tech companies to scan encrypted chats for illegal content, not only for Child Exploitation and Abuse material but also for things such as Counter Terrorism Policing.

UK counter-terrorism efforts continue to focus on online spaces, e.g. with cases like Zakir Hussain, jailed for supporting Hamas and Hizballah on X, Oliver William Rea and Muhammed Bham charged with planning to join ISIS and disseminate terror material.

The recent era has seen shifts in moderation policies by platforms like X and Meta that lead to less oversight. Hence the UK Online Safety Act.

It should have been done ages ago, only those with subversive or criminal intent are benefiting from encryption. The security services and monitoring thousands of accounts already and catching a lot, everything from child porn to terrorists.

Some only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They don’t know about google, obviously. Can’t be bothered arguing with them.

DaisyAnneReturns

nanna8

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

Could you support thst with facts - ones that can be fact checked? I doubt it.

Easy to Google and find out that there are several arrests daily for posts of varying kinds on social media, some resulting in jail sentences.

Many are terrorism related. Others are considered to be racist or hate speech.

DAR 12.05 👍

DAR 12.08- this is how propaganda and fake news takes hold- no facts put forward to check and verify

nanna8

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

Could you support thst with facts - ones that can be fact checked? I doubt it.

LemonJam

ReclaimTheNetHQ fake news....

But fake news some were delighted to believe. Isn't that why we are were we are. Perhaps I shouldn't mention Brexit, Farage, Trump, etc.

Doesn't look like Sueinkent posted something not factually correct but doesn't want to engage in debate...

I think the aim is to clamp down on child pornography as LemonJam has said.

I'm sure none of us could disagree with that.

paddyann54

So …if any of us don’t agree with Trump or Netanyahu will we end up in jail?
Think about it,police are lifting pensioners off the streets for supporting Palestine!
Thankfully some Scottish police have resigned because of this absurdity.Its an English law and should not have been forced on them.
Let’s hope that common sense prevails ,supporting Palestine is NOT antisemitism
Not according to the Jewish community here who march with us.
Big brother is stay out of contro….this is a step too far .

I think Labour (party) Officers resigned - 15 of them, not police officers. Apologies if I'm wrong.

SueinKent
Do you understand what encrypted means ?
This article explains what is going to happen. www.computerweekly.com/feature/The-UKs-Online-Safety-Act-explained-what-you-need-to-know

The British government is just as bad with all their CCTV and jailing people for social media comments. Pot kettle black.

ReclaimTheNetHQ fake news....