Suella leaves the Sinking Ship

Sorry, to, Graphite, not Galaxy.

David49

GrannyGravy13

My natural political home is right of centre.

These people are only joining Reform as they think they have a chance of winning the next election.

With these Traitors leaving, the Conservative Party can rebuild itself.

I wouldnt bet on the Tories rebuiding anything, Reform is building momentum , its not what I want to see but with Starmer making such a hash out of PM its hardly surprising. Farage is building a team with actual political experience, we might not like it but we really should see it as a credible threat and not dismiss it as some are doing

I do not want a Reform influenced government but I fear we are going to get one, a move to the left with the Labour party is going to make it more likely.

I agree with every word of that.

^Racism' doesn't just cover white people being racist about non white people. It exists between all people of sorts of ethnicities and shades of yellow to black.
^

Presonally, I agree with that.

Which is why for years, I feel many people have been homing in on white people, when it is the whole world. In my opinion.

And yet, even from the horse’s mouth that is GB News:
www.gbnews.com/politics/reform-uk-nigel-farage-voting-intention-drop-defections

Will the defection of Suella Braverman to Reform attract voters, and if so, who?

Disgruntled Conservatives?

I suspect most Tories on the right have already moved over to Reform, they look as though they are planning to position themselves as the party of the centre right. I do think that’s their best chance, because most voters are naturally just left or right of centre, and that’s where the gap is.

Will these ex Tories be re-elected by their Consistent's? That's not a forgone conclusion. Suella is my MP I won't vote for her.
Even if Reform, do become the next Government, do they have the support of the House of Lords to get through their plans? Or will Conservative and Labour Peers stall movement?
Tricky times ahead.

I agree.

Whitewavemark2

I am surprise that Cruella hasn’t jumped ship before now, but she will find a natural home in Reform.

Her racism will go down well.

Juvenile name calling again.

How on earth is Suella racist?

To Casdon.

Casdon

I suspect most Tories on the right have already moved over to Reform, they look as though they are planning to position themselves as the party of the centre right. I do think that’s their best chance, because most voters are naturally just left or right of centre, and that’s where the gap is.

If the Conservative Party stop trying to out Reform Reform they stand a chance of gaining a few more seats next time round.

Labour, in my opinion are handing Reform the keys to No.10, as they are not a Labour Party anymore, I agree with MaizieD on this.

As for Wes Streeting being in hock to private medical sector, well that shocked me, not sure the NHS would be safe if he is PM…

Soon going to be Conform not Reform

I vote for the candidate representing the party I want to be in charge.
Why is it right for someone to just take my vote to a party I don’t support.
If they stand for election and get in, so be it but this is definitely deceitful.

Farage is building a team with actual political experience, we might not like it but we really should see it as a credible threat and not dismiss it as some are doing.

Yes, you put it more succinctly than I did. The threat is not to be underestimated.

My problem with Farage is that he needs to establish a viable governing party rather than a protest movement because the latter image makes him look less competent. Whether the politicians stepping his way are the right ones to achieve this, I have some doubts, but I wouldn't dismiss them outright.

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

I am surprise that Cruella hasn’t jumped ship before now, but she will find a natural home in Reform.

Her racism will go down well.

Juvenile name calling again.

How on earth is Suella racist?

You haven’t been listening.

Same as you don’t seem to listen to Farage.

MartavTaurus

^Farage is building a team with actual political experience, we might not like it but we really should see it as a credible threat and not dismiss it as some are doing^.

Yes, you put it more succinctly than I did. The threat is not to be underestimated.

My problem with Farage is that he needs to establish a viable governing party rather than a protest movement because the latter image makes him look less competent. Whether the politicians stepping his way are the right ones to achieve this, I have some doubts, but I wouldn't dismiss them outright.

Farage is building a team of ex Tory ministers who were voted out due to their incompetence. They'll be taking that "experience" with them and hopefully, they'll be fighting like rats in a sack before long.

My problem with Farage is that he's an admirer of the Orange Manbaby, who is currently dismantling democracy in the USA.

All they needs now is Truss joining them saying that she knows how to fix the economy…

MayBee70

All they needs now is Truss joining them saying that she knows how to fix the economy…

We live in strange times, MayBee70

No great loss IMO
Just thinking, come the next GE what will his "team" have to offer other than that they were all part of the discredited Tory government?
Dead wood is always best cut back.

But they aren't.
That is why people have defected!

By the way, been meaning to ask, how do you manage to change your name so often?
Everyone else can only have two name changes, as far as I know.
You are on at least your 3rd? Or more.

MayBee70

That’s right (I’ve just googled it). She also attended Trumps inauguration ceremony wearing a MAGA hat.

What a truly —lovely— ghastly —lady— excuse for a human

The Conservative Party is becoming more attractive to me with every defection of the unprincipled far right numpties.

We need a strong centre right Conservative party in opposition. Amber Rudd has just been on Ch4 News talking lot of sense. If only they still had MP’s like Tobias Ellwood and Dominic Grieve. I still can’t believe that I’m looking back longingly to previous pre Johnson governments.

MayBee70

We need a strong centre right Conservative party in opposition. Amber Rudd has just been on Ch4 News talking lot of sense. If only they still had MP’s like Tobias Ellwood and Dominic Grieve. I still can’t believe that I’m looking back longingly to previous pre Johnson governments.

Me too.
Back to the days of a centre right party without populist far right infiltration.
Perhaps the haemorrhaging of far right flimsies and fly by nights will mean that the Tory party can regroup and take its centre rightful place in politics.
We need a strong and sensible opposition party, not a reactionary group of light weights.

Second sentence should read ‘I long to go back….’