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Suella leaves the Sinking Ship

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Cossy Mon 26-Jan-26 12:43:07

Yet another escapee joins Reform’s home for fed up Tories, time to change the name to Conform??

Why don’t these defections trigger by-elections?

MollyNew Mon 26-Jan-26 12:50:22

I agree, defections should trigger by-elections. I wonder if MP's would defect if they had to face their constituents.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 26-Jan-26 12:57:54

My natural political home is right of centre.

These people are only joining Reform as they think they have a chance of winning the next election.

With these Traitors leaving, the Conservative Party can rebuild itself.

Visgir1 Mon 26-Jan-26 13:02:53

She's my MP... In fairness she's is a hands on MP for my area, but I am definitely not happy she's joined Reform..

Casdon Mon 26-Jan-26 13:06:21

Yay! I’m afraid she has been on my most disliked politicians list for a long time, so her defection is all to the good in my opinion, she will be a millstone round Farage’s neck now.

flump Mon 26-Jan-26 13:07:54

But didn't Farage say he didn't want Conservatives and didn't trust them? Well, that has changed hasn't it? But then he does go back on a lot of things he says so it's not really surprising.

Yes, there should be by-elections if any of them were being honest about their intentions.

Oh, look, a flying pig!

MartavTaurus Mon 26-Jan-26 13:10:57

Oh! SB is an intelligent woman, she must see something in it or why else would she join Reform?

foxie48 Mon 26-Jan-26 13:12:51

Remebering some of the comments she made when she was home secretary, I think Reform is her natural home. The Conservative party do not need people like her in their midst. I sincerely hope the Conservative party can get back on it's feet. The people joining Reform IMO do not give Reform more credibility.

MartavTaurus Mon 26-Jan-26 13:13:22

Now Farage has a fair few politicians who have knowledge of governement, so it does sort of help him.

Casdon Mon 26-Jan-26 13:15:53

I don’t think the country wants to see three failed Tory ministers with dodgy records in charge of the country again MartavTaurus, do you?

Graphite Mon 26-Jan-26 13:20:59

Hardly a surprise. She was one of the of the hot favourites to be next.

Reform are entirely dependent on selling people the myth that Britain is broken. And that the people who ‘broke it’ can fix it if they wear a different colour tie. I would say rosette but they are scared to put that to the test.

But, as I have written elsewhere, by-elections, though an exercise in democracy, would be a waste of time. The entire Tory benches could defect and it would make little difference to how this Parliament works because Labour has such a huge majority.

I do like how SM is now calling Reform The Hateful Eight.

And this:

Suella Braverman can take pride of place as a senior secretary of state who has been sacked twice by two different prime ministers within 14 months. It is a record that few will aspire to beat.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/suella-braverman-collective-responsibility-problem

I'm sure Badenoch will say she's Farage's problem now - and she will be.

ronib Mon 26-Jan-26 13:22:11

I am definitely in the minority and once had high hopes for Farage and Reform but no more. He’s definitely the joker in the pack. I doubt very much that he will become pm. So what will all the former conservatives do then? Self seeking bunch…..

ronib Mon 26-Jan-26 13:28:03

Just noticed that Suella’s husband has left Reform…. And you think this is a viable government in waiting?

keepingquiet Mon 26-Jan-26 13:29:21

Self-seeking is the right word!
Braverman has always only been driven by her own ego. She comes across as a narcissitic bully who thinks shooting her mouth off a la Trump will get her to where she wants to be by any means.
What a nightmare person. I never wanted to see her smug face on screen again but yes, due to the media loving Reform, up she pops again!

MartavTaurus Mon 26-Jan-26 13:40:44

And you think this is a viable government in waiting?
Was that addressed to me? To be clear I don't think anything of the sort. My sardonic point was that the incompetent, bungling amateur that is Farage, can now say he has politicians with experience of government in his party.

I agree these defections should trigger by-elections, but then shouldn't the same perhaps go for swapping Prime Ministers and holding general elections?

MaizieD Mon 26-Jan-26 13:42:03

Braverman was a really bad Attorney General and Home Secretary. She verged on the corrupt in my opinion.

Reform are welcome to her.

MaizieD Mon 26-Jan-26 13:45:10

Out of interest, the petition calling for automatic by-elections when sitting MPs change parties has passed the 100,000 signatures needed for a debate on it.

Not that a 'debate' will achieve anything other than a government explanation of why this cannot possibly be implemented...

ronib Mon 26-Jan-26 13:45:21

No wasn’t thinking of you MT - just throwing it out there….

MartavTaurus Mon 26-Jan-26 13:45:58

ronib

No wasn’t thinking of you MT - just throwing it out there….

👍 😃

Grantanow Mon 26-Jan-26 13:52:33

Good riddance.

Fallingstar Mon 26-Jan-26 13:53:06

So reform has become a haven for incompetent rogues and scoundrels.
Nice.

Fallingstar Mon 26-Jan-26 13:56:36

MartavTaurus

Now Farage has a fair few politicians who have knowledge of governement, so it does sort of help him.

Yes, they have knowledge of a desperately failing government which they served particularly badly.

MayBee70 Mon 26-Jan-26 13:58:56

MaizieD

Braverman was a really bad Attorney General and Home Secretary. She verged on the corrupt in my opinion.

Reform are welcome to her.

Didn’t Johnson just appoint her as a way of getting round various legal issues? I thought she was big in some sort of worldwide ultra Conservative group ( the name escapes me)? I’ve lost track of how many Conservatives MP’s were sacked over various misdemeanours only to be reappointed ( probably because there was no one to replace them).

Fallingstar Mon 26-Jan-26 14:04:19

Was the ultra conservative group called NatCon or the ERG.

MayBee70 Mon 26-Jan-26 14:08:30

That’s right (I’ve just googled it). She also attended Trumps inauguration ceremony wearing a MAGA hat.