How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready 🍿🍿

Oreo

For those rather desperately saying ‘ nothing to see here move along’ there’s plenty to see and plenty just around the corner.
Starmer has clung on just now but there’s the election in Denton in a fortnight and the other elections in May.It all depends on what happens then.
Am guessing that the other political parties want him to stay as Labour would be easier to beat with him at the helm.
It’s all a big mess.

He is now a very lame duck. In my opinion.

Yes we all have our opinions, but none of us know what will happen next. A lot is going to depend on who replaces Morgan Sweeney and Tim Allan.

My GS’s hamster could do a better job than Tim Allan has done.

A large part of Labour’s woes is there appalling standard or even lack of communications.

keepingquiet

I have a feeling OPs popcorn will be getting very stale now...no show here folks, nothing to see. Go home and find another media storm to enter...

Nothing to see? Starmer is clinging on by his fingertips!
His speech yesterday claiming “I will never walk away from …..” was just a joke. He has walked away from pensioners, he has walked away from farmers, from publicans and the rest of the hospitality sector, from WAPI women.

Then running on about how he is working class and he supports the working class. Since when have millionaire champagne socialists been “working class”? 🤣

He even mentioned his disabled brother who passed away last year who he says lived in poverty. So with all his wealth why didn’t he help his brother out financially?

It was a load of BS and most right thinking people will recognise it as such.

GrannyGravy13

My GS’s hamster could do a better job than Tim Allan has done.

A large part of Labour’s woes is there appalling standard or even lack of communications.

That is very true. People can’t know what they aren’t told, I hope the next person has far more of a social media savvy approach.

Ive been very disappointed with Starmer winning the election on a reasonable agenda then failing to implement much of it, maybe he will struggle through, likely he won't, then we are in very uncertain economic times.

I'm happy with any stable moderate government, I can make decisions based on known risks but I fear that is not going to last long.

Oreo

For those rather desperately saying ‘ nothing to see here move along’ there’s plenty to see and plenty just around the corner.
Starmer has clung on just now but there’s the election in Denton in a fortnight and the other elections in May.It all depends on what happens then.
Am guessing that the other political parties want him to stay as Labour would be easier to beat with him at the helm.
It’s all a big mess.

I agree.

The last thing we need at the moment is the upheaval of a leadership election
Anwar blaming Starmer for Labour's dismal performance in Scotland for 30 years and thinking they will do better there if we have a new PM was just ludicrous and sour grapes. It made me more defensive of Starmer.

However, I will agree with Primrose that some of their decisions have upset a lot of the British public. Some of the voters who changed their vote to Labour in the last GE might well vote differently next time as they have been very disappointed.

The last thing we need at the moment is the upheaval of a leadership election

Some people and business sectors would see that as hope.

I'm happy with any stable moderate government, I can make decisions based on known risks but I fear that is not going to last long.

Not Rachel Reeves then!

Labour have made some very unpopular decisions. They have betrayed their loyal voters and those who hoped they would turn things around after too many years of mismanagement by the Tories.
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I think Starmer should stay as PM as more disruption is the last thing we need. The Tories played musical chairs with prime ministers which was disastrous.
I was a Tory voter for many years and didn't vote Labour or Tory last time.

Hoping for some improvement if Starmer gets better advisors but not expecting much.

Oreo

For those rather desperately saying ‘ nothing to see here move along’ there’s plenty to see and plenty just around the corner.
Starmer has clung on just now but there’s the election in Denton in a fortnight and the other elections in May.It all depends on what happens then.
Am guessing that the other political parties want him to stay as Labour would be easier to beat with him at the helm.
It’s all a big mess.

Oh I wouldn't bet on that, a couple of years with Rayner or Milliband at the helm could create mayhem. If the Tories can create chaos by electing Truss as the wrong leader, Labour can certainly make the same mistake.

As neither of them will stand one can only assume doom mongering is your bag David49. We don’t know exactly what will happen, but we do know it won’t be that.

GrannyGravy13

My GS’s hamster could do a better job than Tim Allan has done.

A large part of Labour’s woes is there appalling standard or even lack of communications.

Apologies for the typo it should be their not there 🤷‍♀️

Casdon

As neither of them will stand one can only assume doom mongering is your bag David49. We don’t know exactly what will happen, but we do know it won’t be that.

You know for certain they won't stand, in any case polititians are notorious for changing their mind.

David Milliband confirmed yesterday that he won’t, and I believe that is true. Rachel Reeves is unpopular within the party, and is not a fool, so she won’t either.

He even mentioned his disabled brother who passed away last year who he says lived in poverty. So with all his wealth why didn’t he help his brother out financially?

Perhaps a more pertinent question to ask, with estimated GDP (national income) per head in 2025 of £41,414.72, would be, Why are some 14 million of the UK population living in poverty, with some 4 million of them living in destitution?

Labour has tinkered around the edges with raising the minimum wage and finally abolishing the 2 child benefit cap, but with their huge majority they could have done a lot more. Introduced more progressive taxation for a start

Casdon

David Milliband confirmed yesterday that he won’t, and I believe that is true. Rachel Reeves is unpopular within the party, and is not a fool, so she won’t either.

I didn't know David Milliband was even being mentioned as a contender. Are you confusing him with his brother?

Yes, sorry I am. That was wishful thinking on my part, as I would like to see David Milliband back.

I'm happy with any stable moderate government, I can make decisions based on known risks but I fear that is not going to last long.

It's easy to be happy with a moderate government when you are in comfortable financial circumstances. 20% of our population living below the poverty line might be happier with something a bit more radical..

MaizieD the figures are not out yet for us to know if there has been any change since this government came into office?

Did anyone see PMQ today?
How did it go?

The farmers are out protesting at the moment….

MaizieD

Casdon

David Milliband confirmed yesterday that he won’t, and I believe that is true. Rachel Reeves is unpopular within the party, and is not a fool, so she won’t either.

I didn't know David Milliband was even being mentioned as a contender. Are you confusing him with his brother?

Strange, believing politicians

I believe politicians who are previous failed leaders of a party when they clearly say they don’t want to go there again David49. I can’t think of an instance when they have trued to do so before.

Casdon

MaizieD the figures are not out yet for us to know if there has been any change since this government came into office?

What is likely to have changed them, Casdon? To have changed them enough to have brought a significant number of those people out of poverty?

Even lifting the two child cap, not operative anti April this year, will only affect some 3 - 5% (Says AI ) of the 14 million living below the poverty line.

Increasing the minimum wage will have a similar modest effect.

'anti' April 🤔 'until'