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How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready šŸæšŸæ

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Primrose53 Thu 05-Feb-26 09:13:52

It seems not very long at all! What an absolute mess he has got himself into with this Mandelson business on top of all his U turns.

He now has to release everything he knows about Mandelson and Epstein. Kemi Badendoch absolutely roasted him yesterday and his Ministers could not look at him. As usual he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

On top of all this, Angela Rayner (who still has not sorted out her tax ā€œmistakeā€) is waiting in the wings. 😱 She is loving all this and ready to stab him in the back and I bet he regrets supporting her and saying how wonderful she is when she was in trouble.

fancythat Fri 13-Feb-26 07:32:29

It is.

Some are fearful.

Doodledog Fri 13-Feb-26 08:19:07

I am far from obsessed with Farage, but we keep being told that he will be the next PM, so of course it is interesting to find out more about his behaviour - particularly when he criticises others.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 12:53:49

Doodledog

I am far from obsessed with Farage, but we keep being told that he will be the next PM, so of course it is interesting to find out more about his behaviour - particularly when he criticises others.

Precisely. He and his party ( when Farage and Tice are actually in this country others deputise for them when they’ve left their previous parties) are asked their opinion on just about everything as if they are a government in waiting. Farage has the sort of cult following that enabled Trump to regain the presidency. And he stands for everything I abhor.

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 12:54:47

It is quite a big cult looking at the opinion polls.

Casdon Fri 13-Feb-26 13:10:29

Well yes Galaxy, I’m not sure what you mean, as that is why polls exist?

Doodledog Fri 13-Feb-26 13:26:35

Galaxy

It is quite a big cult looking at the opinion polls.

Exactly. So showing an interest in stories about him is hardly 'obsessive' is it? I'm not sure of your point either.

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 13:38:17

I always think of cults as quite a niche thing grinbut maybe that's just me.

Casdon Fri 13-Feb-26 13:49:42

Yes, I suspect it’s just you, i don’t get why you think polls happen at all if you don’t think people look at them? It would be completely pointless them existing if that was the case.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 13:52:38

I think of cults as people following a leader blindly no matter what they say or do.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 14:02:21

Farage is now on BBC2. I can’t get away from the man. He has a handful of MPs but is constantly on tv.

ronib Fri 13-Feb-26 14:35:21

Er yes MayBee70 doesn’t Farage have a financial stake in GB news plus his own hourly tv show twice a week? He’s smart whether you love or hate him. He is miles ahead of most other politicians in positive media exposure.

Maremia Fri 13-Feb-26 16:42:27

Cults can be enormous. How many are in the MAGA cult just now?

Maremia Fri 13-Feb-26 16:44:29

Gosh, I agree with you there ronib. Farage is smart, and has the media exposure thing sussed.
Still doesn't make him a good choice as PM. Just makes him a good storyteller.

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 16:47:48

So are you saying cults are just politics that you don't agree with.

Galaxy Fri 13-Feb-26 16:53:32

So I don't think Reform is a cult, I think it is a political party with considerable support. I think for example if Farage becomes PM ( quite likely in my view) and fails to address the immigration issue ( again quote likely in my view), he will be abandoned by those who currently support him.

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 13-Feb-26 17:00:33

I thought Reform was a registered company. Not a political party at all.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Feb-26 17:02:01

MayBee70

Farage is now on BBC2. I can’t get away from the man. He has a handful of MPs but is constantly on tv.

Obviously TV and other media look at ratings and sales, if Nigel Farage pushes the viewing figures and/or sales up, then of course he will be asked to go on time and time again.

sixandahalf Fri 13-Feb-26 17:12:55

Maremia

Gosh, I agree with you there ronib. Farage is smart, and has the media exposure thing sussed.
Still doesn't make him a good choice as PM. Just makes him a good storyteller.

People believe the story.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 17:39:45

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

Farage is now on BBC2. I can’t get away from the man. He has a handful of MPs but is constantly on tv.

Obviously TV and other media look at ratings and sales, if Nigel Farage pushes the viewing figures and/or sales up, then of course he will be asked to go on time and time again.

I disagree. I think that, with 24 hour news channels he just makes sure Reform are always available.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 17:41:18

Galaxy

So I don't think Reform is a cult, I think it is a political party with considerable support. I think for example if Farage becomes PM ( quite likely in my view) and fails to address the immigration issue ( again quote likely in my view), he will be abandoned by those who currently support him.

He’ll still have five years in which to fulfil the desires of his financial backers ( who aren’t in it to help the poor and underprivileged).

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Feb-26 17:45:25

MayBee70

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

Farage is now on BBC2. I can’t get away from the man. He has a handful of MPs but is constantly on tv.

Obviously TV and other media look at ratings and sales, if Nigel Farage pushes the viewing figures and/or sales up, then of course he will be asked to go on time and time again.

I disagree. I think that, with 24 hour news channels he just makes sure Reform are always available.

If you are correct, then maybe the other parties should also ensure that they always have someone ready and willing to go any programme/media?

Reform are seldom on ITV or BBC Breakfast news programmes, mind you neither are the Lib Dem’s or Greens.

It’s always a member of the government and their shadow, currently Labour and Conservative.

LemonJam Fri 13-Feb-26 18:22:27

sixandahalf: 'People believe the story'.

Just read article about Kent Council where 3.99% council tax increase agreed despite promising in their campaigning leaflets to reduce council tax in Kent if it won. To achieve the 3.99% increase the new budget will be Kent's highest exposure to financial risk ( up 60% from last year) and almost all of the risk is rated 4 out of 5 as likely to happen. The budget cuts £1.2 million from fostering services, £700,000 from fostering for children with disabilities, infrastructure static, ie not increasing with inflation so in reality a cut etc etc.

No, I for one don't agree with any of the Farage/Reform UK fantastical 'stories".

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 18:43:02

ā€œReform councillor Nick Brown has resigned the whip and will now sit as an Independent.

And he didn’t go quietly.

🚧 He blasted the decision to cancel the long-promised Toft Hill Bypass, despite millions having been allocated.
āœ‚ļø He accused the administration of failing to ā€œslash council wasteā€ or deliver any real reform of Durham County Council.

🤐 Culture of Yes-men
His letter describes a leadership culture where questioning decisions is met with hostility rather than debate. Allegations of bullying. A formal complaint to Standards. A party machine that values loyalty over scrutiny.

He also filed a complaint against Deputy Leader Darren Grimes, accusing him of belittling colleagues and failing basic standards of leadership. Brown’s view is blunt: some in the leadership seem more interested in building a social media profile and chasing a seat in Westminster than listening to councillors or residentsā€œ

LemonJam Fri 13-Feb-26 18:51:25

Reform just don't have the experience, knowledge, culture, leadership or maturity to act in local or national government, in agreement with Nick Brown- Farage is more interested in making enormous sums of money, gaining narcissistic attention via media appearances than a true interest in public service. The UK deserves much better than Reform/Farage in these challenging times.

Allira Fri 13-Feb-26 20:17:15

MayBee70

Farage is now on BBC2. I can’t get away from the man. He has a handful of MPs but is constantly on tv.

I haven't seen him for quite a while.

We also have a 'silent' button so can think "Your lips are moving but all I hear is blah, blah, blah".