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How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready šŸæšŸæ

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Primrose53 Thu 05-Feb-26 09:13:52

It seems not very long at all! What an absolute mess he has got himself into with this Mandelson business on top of all his U turns.

He now has to release everything he knows about Mandelson and Epstein. Kemi Badendoch absolutely roasted him yesterday and his Ministers could not look at him. As usual he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

On top of all this, Angela Rayner (who still has not sorted out her tax ā€œmistakeā€) is waiting in the wings. 😱 She is loving all this and ready to stab him in the back and I bet he regrets supporting her and saying how wonderful she is when she was in trouble.

Primrose53 Thu 12-Feb-26 08:37:16

nanna8 šŸ‘šŸ‘ She manages to remain calm and she speaks very well. Starmer does too much dithering, ā€œermsā€ and almost gasping for breath when he gets flustered.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 12-Feb-26 10:30:04

Casdon

She doesn’t have the ability to pin him, or anybody else down, she is sort of head girly in her approach I think, she always gives people the chance to waffle rather than hitting the nail on the head.

The (old-fashioned) head girl picture of KB sums her up well. However, I think she is also a very manipulate person who would be happy to throw others to the wolves to stop them seeming more capable than her and, I would guess, claim any success as her own.

ronib Thu 12-Feb-26 10:37:49

No wolves need be involved nowadays. Starmer is doing a brilliant job of self annihilation. And just why is Chris Wormald being made to resign? DAR

Wyllow3 Thu 12-Feb-26 12:44:37

some reform supporters her may have forgotten that Farage initially praised the appointment of Mandelson.

Yes, for real!

Farage has meanwhile said that he "might disagree with Mandelson on his politics, but he's a very intelligent man" and would be good choice for ambassador

quoted in the Independent and others, but behind paywalls (I did check with the quote) so giving the BBC reference

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvnlxxp8jko

I'll also add two pictures, one a comment from the writer and commentator and author David Aaronovitch, and the comments beside the image of Starmer which gave me the clue to Farage's initial support of Mandelson.

AGAA4 Thu 12-Feb-26 13:23:49

I do agree with last comment Wyllow this is all about Starmer instead of Epstein.
You would think with the backlash landing on Starmer that he was guilty of abusing girls. His only guilt seems to be that he appointed Mandelson.

Maremia Thu 12-Feb-26 14:10:58

Does popcorn stay fresh after a week? I know that crips go soggy. šŸæ

Casdon Thu 12-Feb-26 14:15:31

No, it becomes chewy and sticks to your teeth.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Feb-26 14:16:19

Wyllow3

*some reform supporters her may have forgotten that Farage initially praised the appointment of Mandelson*.

Yes, for real!

Farage has meanwhile said that he "might disagree with Mandelson on his politics, but he's a very intelligent man" and would be good choice for ambassador

quoted in the Independent and others, but behind paywalls (I did check with the quote) so giving the BBC reference

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvnlxxp8jko

I'll also add two pictures, one a comment from the writer and commentator and author David Aaronovitch, and the comments beside the image of Starmer which gave me the clue to Farage's initial support of Mandelson.

ā€œNigel Farage has said he would be willing to help Peter Mandelson negotiate with the Trump administration, after the Labour grandee was confirmed as Westminster’s new ambassador to the US.

Lord Mandelson has indicated he believes the Reform UK leader, a friend of Donald Trump, could serve as a link between the UK and the Republican president-elect.

But Downing Street would not be drawn on whether Keir Starmer would like the political veteran to work with Farage, saying when asked only that the prime minister had ā€œalready started to begin to build a relationshipā€ with Trump.

Farage has previously offered to use his relationship with Trump and his team to act as a bridge between them and Downing Street. He told the Telegraph he would be willing to work with people in Labour if it was in the ā€œnational interestā€.

ā€œI am no fan of any of the people in the Labour party, but if it is in the national interest I have always thought I could be a useful asset if they want to use that - but if they don’t, more fool them,ā€ the Clacton MP said.ā€
From the Guardian 2024

AGAA4 Thu 12-Feb-26 14:18:10

Maybe bin the popcorn and get something that may last a bit longer like sour lemons.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Feb-26 14:26:02

This not only shows that Farage didn’t see Mandelson as a problem but also shows what strong links he has with the most despicable president that America has ever had. But hey, it’s just water off a ducks back. No matter what the man says or does nothing sticks….

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 16:58:03

DaisyAnneReturns

Casdon

She doesn’t have the ability to pin him, or anybody else down, she is sort of head girly in her approach I think, she always gives people the chance to waffle rather than hitting the nail on the head.

The (old-fashioned) head girl picture of KB sums her up well. However, I think she is also a very manipulate person who would be happy to throw others to the wolves to stop them seeming more capable than her and, I would guess, claim any success as her own.

Most Ministers seem able to do that, and Starmer has certainly thrown McSweeney to the wolves.

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 16:59:56

I enjoy a bit of popcorn šŸæ and now there’s a Number Ten drama to go with it. It’s not over yet…

Wyllow3 Thu 12-Feb-26 19:18:25

I think its time to put the popcorn away as regards Starmer and re-open a pack on how much Farage knew.

This thread continues to to try and "name and blame" Starmer as the sole "offender" when as more and more results in the USA - and the UK in terms of Prince Andrew and friends - make it clear the tentacles are incredibly far reaching but also concealed by the hundreds of powerful and mostly men.

I have my reservations about Starmer being the best person to lead the Labour Party but despite Badenhoch's efforts, this is not the issue that sparks my concerns, nor his international diplomatic efforts for the UK, but domestic management of the economy on a number of issues.

About time to stick to what really matters - and its not trying to hang draw and quarter Starmer for this issue,

As it becomes obvious that the most significant figure on the far right, Farage, also thought it a good appointment.

I have searched and searched (and searched) for a Badenhoch comment at the actual time of the appointment of Mandelson - I have found none.

It appears to be all in retrospect. I'd welcome any proof at all that she revealed anything whatsoever - unease, dodgy connections - at the time of the appointment

Galaxy Thu 12-Feb-26 19:26:12

Oh good on this issue then the labour party has the same standards as Farage then, what a triumph

MayBee70 Thu 12-Feb-26 19:35:20

Galaxy

Oh good on this issue then the labour party has the same standards as Farage then, what a triumph

The point is that Farage is never in danger of losing his leadership of his party no matter what he says or does. And the news media isn’t desperate to see him lose it, either. Why?

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 20:34:13

Farage isn’t in power, it’s Starmer that’s PM.

Primrose53 Thu 12-Feb-26 20:46:56

Oreo

I enjoy a bit of popcorn šŸæ and now there’s a Number Ten drama to go with it. It’s not over yet…

Another one bites the dust ……. Civil Service Chief, Chris Wormald gone today! After just 14 months in the job. šŸæ

Wyllow3 Thu 12-Feb-26 21:29:40

That's actually been on the cards for some time, however.

"The Cabinet Office said the move was "by mutual agreement" but it follows months of negative media reports suggesting Downing Street was unhappy with his performance".

(BBC I player news)

Casdon Thu 12-Feb-26 21:39:55

Yes Wyllow, he hasn’t been delivering, I heard he was likely going about a month ago. I think that’s why the press aren’t so interested.

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 22:18:23

I think a lot of people in the LP are unhappy with Starmer and Reeves’ performance but looks like we’ll have to wait a couple of months. They aren’t delivering either!

Oreo Thu 12-Feb-26 22:20:27

The LP have waited too long to be in power to allow Starmer to ruin everything.He just can’t be in place for the next election so he needs to go damn soon for the good of the Party, Reeves too.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Feb-26 00:38:04

It was Starmer who got them into power…

David49 Fri 13-Feb-26 07:09:09

MayBee70

It was Starmer who got them into power…

That was in 2024, MPs are now looking at what will get them re elected next time do they can stay on the gravy train.

They don't think it's Starmer

ronib Fri 13-Feb-26 07:13:54

Same happened with Boris Johnson. End of story….

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Feb-26 07:27:14

Oreo

Farage isn’t in power, it’s Starmer that’s PM.

GN seems rather obsessed with Mr Farage…