Starmer and Labour

MT62

Yes I agree that circumstances can change Basgetti, but how many of these families do you see, where parents have tattoos, Botox, lip fillers, drink, or smoke.
When I am in the supermarket, they are ordering taxis to take them & their many bags of shopping home.
Yes there are genuine families struggling.

There are badduns in all walks of life - as the news headlines currently demonstrate - but it’s for those genuine families that the help is needed. I do believe they are the majority.

MT62

Yes I agree that circumstances can change Basgetti, but how many of these families do you see, where parents have tattoos, Botox, lip fillers, drink, or smoke.
When I am in the supermarket, they are ordering taxis to take them & their many bags of shopping home.
Yes there are genuine families struggling.

How do you know they are claiming Universal Credit?

MT62

I don’t know much about the Greens.
Just heard that that they are getting stronger.
Still, I won’t be bothering to vote for them.

Check out the TRIP Leading interview with Zack Polanski

I know a good few people who have family, or know of people who claim UC.
Quite open about it.
I just wonder how they afford all these beauty treatments, or taxi to & from the town centre.

I sent a supportive email to K Starmer today and suggested they keep the country informed of the good things they’ve done far. Just saying.

Ladyleftfieldlover

I sent a supportive email to K Starmer today and suggested they keep the country informed of the good things they’ve done far. Just saying.

Yes, their comms people have done a terrible job!

keepingquiet

There isnt going to be a GE and Starmer isn't going to resign.

This government is working hard to improve things but you don't see that in the press.

There is too much at stake to begin short-termism again.

We need long-term stability and level headedness.

Do people really want a return to chaos- or worse?

Exactly.

Throwing the toys out of the pram every time a politician is not perfect leads to constant political instability.

Just be glad that we a free of the buffoonery and blatant disregard for the law of the Tory regime.

People really do have very short memories, don’t they?

There is a lot of ‘whataboutery’ on this thread - the Tories, Reform, etc It is just deflection.
Starmer made a serious error of judgement. He may have been badly advised by Morgan McSweeney and co. but the buck stops with him. Unfortunately there is no one waiting in the Labour wings who would do a better job of PM

Please can someone point me towards any serious information whatsoever that any more than a few people want Angela Raynor as PM

I'm in the LP and she's not seen as a runner in any way at all in our discussions. Scare/dirty story stuff from the right.

Basgetti

Ladyleftfieldlover

I sent a supportive email to K Starmer today and suggested they keep the country informed of the good things they’ve done far. Just saying.

Yes, their comms people have done a terrible job!

A bad workman blames his tools.

Wyllow3

*Please can someone point me towards any serious information whatsoever that any more than a few people want Angela Raynor as PM*

I'm in the LP and she's not seen as a runner in any way at all in our discussions. Scare/dirty story stuff from the right.

No it isn’t.
The unions would support her in a heartbeat.

sundowngirl

There is a lot of ‘whataboutery’ on this thread - the Tories, Reform, etc It is just deflection.
Starmer made a serious error of judgement. He may have been badly advised by Morgan McSweeney and co. but the buck stops with him. Unfortunately there is no one waiting in the Labour wings who would do a better job of PM

At this stage am thinking that almost anyone would do a better job.

Oreo

Wyllow3

Please can someone point me towards any serious information whatsoever that any more than a few people want Angela Raynor as PM

I'm in the LP and she's not seen as a runner in any way at all in our discussions. Scare/dirty story stuff from the right.

No it isn’t.
The unions would support her in a heartbeat.

I don’t know how you came to that conclusion, as she has been suspended by the Unions. Why would they back a non endorsed candidate?

As the song goes,
You say deflection, I say comparison

Because they always like a left leftwinger is why.

The Unions don’t see Angela Rayner as a left winger. They don’t think she represents the members in the way they want her to. That’s why they ditched her.

Casdon

The Unions don’t see Angela Rayner as a left winger. They don’t think she represents the members in the way they want her to. That’s why they ditched her.

I can’t see them getting behind anyone else that’s for sure.
Only Corbyn and he’s toast and not even in the LP now.

I see her as a strong contender with many backers.

Maremia

As the song goes,
You say deflection, I say comparison

But the others are not running the country are they?? Starmer is doing a terrible job. How can we trust him now?

I don’t get this fear of ‘the left’. They are a minority in the parliamentary Labour Party. Their choice of candidate won’t win. It won’t be Angela Rayner either. Look to the recent process to appoint the Deputy Leader.

“Unbelieveable support” for Starmer and the Labour Party?
You’re havin’ a larf encha? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Labour will still be in government, with or without Starmer, that the fact we do know.

I don't think people are joining or rejoining Labour because Starmer is a good man. I think they know they can vote in a Left wing leader and PM once Starmer goes. Angela, maybe.

Membership of the Labour Party, or any other party is not an indication of the number of votes they would get in a general election though Grantanow. People who seek to influence join, but they are not representative.