Eugenie and Beatrice

Unless of course you mean that you do not condone paedophilia or being friends with a paedophile for non royal people but it’s absolutely fine for the RF because you know because thet’re entitled to their privacy?

TheSunRisesInTheEast

I certainly do not condone paedophilia, that is the most heinous crime of all, but there are so many other aspects of The Royal Family that are questionable and yes, I just accept them. I think the country benefits from having a Royal Family, I just wish the media would leave them alone and keep their noses out. The public does not need to know their every move.

That’s just completely illogical - you can’t say their behaviour should all be kept private but you say you don’t condone paedophilia? ?

I certainly do not condone paedophilia, that is the most heinous crime of all, but there are so many other aspects of The Royal Family that are questionable and yes, I just accept them. I think the country benefits from having a Royal Family, I just wish the media would leave them alone and keep their noses out. The public does not need to know their every move.

TheSunRisesInTheEast

What goes on with The Royal Family should stay with The Royal Family. Regardless of 'us' funding their lifestyle, it just has to be accepted that they are only human and they've got up to all sorts of shenanigans through the years. One can only imagine the high jinks and debauchery that went on when Princess Margaret hosted her parties on Mustique. It's always been an 'us' and 'them' situation, it doesn't bother me, I accept it, I wouldn't want to swap my anonymous life for theirs for all the tea in Buckingham Palace 😂.

Really? Really??? We fund their lifestyles , we pay for the special protection officers to protect Andrew whilst he stays in a convicted paedophile’s house and that all be kept private ? Go on , you’re having a larf 😂😂👍
Except it’s not funny - I’ve just been listening to some of the Epstein survivors speaking. FFS

What goes on with The Royal Family should stay with The Royal Family. Regardless of 'us' funding their lifestyle, it just has to be accepted that they are only human and they've got up to all sorts of shenanigans through the years. One can only imagine the high jinks and debauchery that went on when Princess Margaret hosted her parties on Mustique. It's always been an 'us' and 'them' situation, it doesn't bother me, I accept it, I wouldn't want to swap my anonymous life for theirs for all the tea in Buckingham Palace 😂.

Mollygo

I hope she gets a deal. It will give GN’s something else to go on about.

Well it would certainly finish off the RF - so let’s hope she does 😂😂

I hope she gets a deal. It will give GN’s something else to go on about.

JenniferEccles

Meanwhile their mother is reportedly seeking a multi-million pound deal to write a ‘tell-all’ memoir similar to Harry’s Spare!
I guess she’s run out of wealthy friends willing to bail her out!

Oh no! Please Spare us the gawdy details!

Losing her virginity in a field.
Frost-bitten nipples.

😂 😂

I think we can say without a shadow of doubt that there is much much mire to tell. However I think SF may have a problem finding a publisher as the rich and powerful, led by the Royal Family, will make absolutely sure no one dares publish

For the sake of her daughters she should stay silent and keep a low profile. The poor girls have suffered enough embarrassment and humiliation from their parents and enough is enough.

JenniferEccles

Meanwhile their mother is reportedly seeking a multi-million pound deal to write a ‘tell-all’ memoir similar to Harry’s Spare!
I guess she’s run out of wealthy friends willing to bail her out!

There can't be too much left to tell surely?

I doubt she will, her children are part of the family

Meanwhile their mother is reportedly seeking a multi-million pound deal to write a ‘tell-all’ memoir similar to Harry’s Spare!
I guess she’s run out of wealthy friends willing to bail her out!

(As has been noted upthread). There is no entitlement to royal titles for the children of nieces or nephews of the monarch

TerriBull

"they sensibly refused titles for their children"

Are the next generation eligible for titles? I've no idea. How ridiculous anyway, just as well they have refused titles.

Beatrice's children through their father?

MeantimeWilliam is “visiting” in TheE irates with the guy who sent Epstein an e mail saying how much he enjoyed the”TORTURE video. !
You couldn’t make it up…..but…William has received a good donation of @ £1 MILLION ….are all the folk who bow and scrape to the RF ….happy with this new information
Doesn’t look like an innocent transaction at all

Birds of a feather?

B & U children cannot have titles,

"they sensibly refused titles for their children"

Are the next generation eligible for titles? I've no idea. How ridiculous anyway, just as well they have refused titles.

I’m not saying this with regards to the princesses but in the interviews I’ve been listening to one of the ways Epstein was able to have so much influence is that he not only introduced charities to possible benefactors but was one himself, often giving huge amounts to charity. It hadn’t occurred to me before the difficulty charities have raising money and how important it is to have patrons that know the right people and go to the right social events. I know myself that if someone has been kind to me I’m much less likely to openly criticise them although the Epstein scandal takes everything to a whole new level.

keepingquiet

ferry23

With great privilege comes great responsibility. Whilst they don't have protection now, the public purse paid for their security teams for many years - even to the extent of paying for Eugenie's personal protection during her gap year when she travelled extensively.

I would think any Met Officers must have jostled for the post of protecting these Princesses - travel the world for free in unrivalled luxury. Nice little job.

Whilst they may not have done anything illegal, I think we are perfectly entitled to question the morals, integrity and honesty of any member of the Royal Family who is or has been, funded by taxpayers money.

Exactly! What have these two women ever done for good causes that merits their privilege?

I would love to see a very long list...

Well, as well as being mothers of young children, they do work and support charitable causes.
They sensibly refused any titles for their children.

As Casdon says Our lives are determined by the fortune of our births.

Their upbringing will have been different from that of most of us but that was not their choice or their fault.

I do hope that their lives and those of their children will not be tainted by something they may have done in innocence as very young women, nor by association with their parents.

I'm sure, if you Google, keepingquiet, you can find a list of charitable causes they have supported. Excuse me if I don't spend time looking for you, I have other things to do.

So much of this is at the doors of their parents .For the last few years they have received no state funding or privileges as far as I can discover other than Beatrice using an apartment at St James Palace when she is in London, that others also use. Hash over the past as much as you want, complain about the funding of the royal family, etc. etc., but at the end of it, there is nothing more that can be taken from them. I’m sure some of that is down to the King and William who are aware of the optics, but baying for the blood of these two, who have already lost their reputation along with that of their parents is a waste of your anger.

they socialise far too much, along with all the holidays they seem (evidence?) to take

🙀🙀

So do some of the working parents at our school if their posts on social media are to be believed. 😄

I agree UTBB. As mentioned up thread, I read an interview with one of them who related something along the lines of they saw themselves as "hardworking career girls" I suppose, given their upbringing, which removes them from reality that's their perception, but it's a false one. In the real world, a) they wouldn't have had the doors opened for them that they have had and b) they wouldn't be able to swan off on umpteen holidays and breaks. and c) they have no idea of the financial struggles that their contemporaries would have had. If they're entitled now, it's because that was imbued from the earliest age. Andrew insisted on them having security at enormous expense, often shadowing them during their university years or outside a nightclub for them to emerge. Did their cousins, the untitled Peter and Zara Phillips have that? I don't think so, but I'll be corrected if they did.

For the monarchy to survive it needs to be more in tune with the public. I do think some of the family get that. I think I also mentioned the new breed coming up the line, best exemplified by Louise Windsor, who took a job at a local garden centre on the minimum wage before university. This is the chord younger royals need to strike to resonate. Not too good to do what they might find their peers doing. All we ever see or saw of B&E are them posing at swanky business receptions with a lanyard round their neck as if they are somehow playing an important role pivotal to world trade. I don't think they bring much to the table, unfortunately, and possibly unfairly any brand they have has been well and truly tarnished. I'm on the fence as to whether they were guilty by association at age 19 and 20 what they knew or didn't know. I suspect they have very little nous, that comes across from the interviews I've read. However, let's not forget Shamima Begum was deemed guilty at 15, at an age when many can be unworldly and truly naive and foolish.

Usedtobeblonde

They cannot have full time careers , they socialise far too much along with all the holidays they seem to take.
This is not said with approbation just a fact for anyone seeing the news and social media.

Some of that socialising will be continuing work for the charities and work they do. They will also do the socialising that Mums and families do. Maybe when they were in their late teens and early twenties they took advantage of their situation because they were allowed to. They were fiercely criticised at the time and things changed. They did what a lot of young people do, they grow up and learn from their mistakes.
Should we hold their mistakes against them forever? I don't think so. I have 6 adult children and all of them did things that as a parent I was completely shocked by in one way or another. However, as time has gone by they have grown up into lovely adults and although I won't forget some of the things they did, I won't hold it against them. People in glass houses and all that!

They cannot have full time careers , they socialise far too much along with all the holidays they seem to take.
This is not said with approbation just a fact for anyone seeing the news and social media.