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What Reform has actually put forward.

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DaisyAnneReturns Sun 15-Feb-26 11:28:21

As always, it would be considered polite to watch the video. If you don't want to there are many other threads where you can offer your opinion. It's difficult to discuss a video with those who haven't seen it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGGgzSPFCpM

Reform UK’s candidate in an upcoming by-election has called for women and young girls to be given a 'biological reality' check, as he outlined how he believes Britain should tackles its 'fertility crisis'.

Matt Goodwin said on his YouTube channel in November 2024 that "many women in Britain are having children much too late in life".

This comes after Nigel Farage called for an end to working from home culture, because he believes it gets in the way of ‘hard work’.

Speaking at a rally in Birmingham, the Reform UK leader said he thinks workers are “more productive being with other fellow human beings”.

He said “you can't go on the sick because you've got mild anxiety. But it is an attitudinal change that Britain needs."

AGAA4 Sun 15-Feb-26 11:53:00

I disagree strongly with Farage's plans to control women. Telling women when to have children, to stay married and going the American way of banning abortions taking away the rights women have fought for for so long.
Also wanting people to go back to full time working in the office is counter productive. It has been proved that WFH has worked well with a few days in the office. This again affects women more.
Do women want to have Farage dictating how they live their lives?

Cossy Sun 15-Feb-26 12:03:13

I’m utterly outraged by most of stuff that emerges from Farage’s backside, oops mouth.

I worked from home in a couple of jobs, pre, during and post covid. It NEVER affected my professional relationship with peers, or clients, and I was always more productive.

I also had three of my four children at 39, 42 & 44 and they are all healthy and working.

As for wanting to limit/prevent abortions or follow the USA model of healthcare, no thanks!

Actually, how dare Farage, Trump or any man deign to tell any women when and how they should babies.

Nothing Farage says or does endears him to me in any way!

Cossy Sun 15-Feb-26 12:04:15

* have babies

Allira Sun 15-Feb-26 12:05:44

Reform UK’s candidate in an upcoming by-election has called for women and young girls to be given a 'biological reality' check, as he outlined how he believes Britain should tackles its 'fertility crisis'.

He was forty when his daughter was born.

Cossy Sun 15-Feb-26 12:07:15

Sorry, I know this thread is more about Farage’s candidate, Matt Goodwin, but all of Farage’s ideas etc, when echoed by his “peers” and “buddies” are all very similar and, to me, abhorrent!

AGAA4 Sun 15-Feb-26 12:08:22

Allira

^Reform UK’s candidate in an upcoming by-election has called for women and young girls to be given a 'biological reality' check, as he outlined how he believes Britain should tackles its 'fertility crisis'.^

He was forty when his daughter was born.

He also works from home using his wife as secretary I think.
Hypocritical?

Maremia Sun 15-Feb-26 12:11:29

Nooooooooooooo! Men controlling women again.
Am so over than sort of thinking.

Graphite Sun 15-Feb-26 12:28:11

Isn’t this a version of the Nazi Lebensborn program?

encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/lebensborn-program

Among Goodwin’s senior campaign team is Adam Mitula who tweeted that he wouldn’t touch a Jewish woman.

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 12:39:24

It us ok to say to women that your fertility declines as you age, this isn't new information, it's OK to say to women the risks of certain conditions rise as you age, I was certainly told that by a number of medical professionals.
It is very funny that he was 40 when his daughter was born though.

Kandinsky Sun 15-Feb-26 13:00:22

Matt Goodwin said on his YouTube channel in November 2024 that "many women in Britain are having children much too late in life

That’s hardly controversial though is it.

Key Age-Related Factors & Recommendations
Best Fertility Years:
Late teens to late 20s offer the highest chances of conception (roughly 92% within one year).

Age 35+: Fertility declines, and risks of complications (such as gestational diabetes, pre-eclampsia, and chromosomal abnormalities) increase.

Age 40+: There is a higher risk of stillbirth and a greater likelihood of needing a C-section.

I’ll throw you over a few more straws to clutch at DaisyAnneReturns

Kandinsky Sun 15-Feb-26 13:01:59

Speaking at a rally in Birmingham, the Reform UK leader said he thinks workers are “more productive being with other fellow human beings

Also agree.

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:03:49

And whether I agree or not about the work from home stuff ( I actually think there are compelling arguments on both sides) I can cope with someone putting forward that argument.

Furret Sun 15-Feb-26 13:08:52

What disgusted me and raised red flags was their threat to the University of Bath (Guardian last week) after the Student Body had declined a visit from a Reform speaker. It implied that they had better look out for their funding should Reform take power.

Straight out of the Trump Playbook.

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:13:43

Bangor. There is a thread on it at the moment.

Furret Sun 15-Feb-26 13:17:21

Thanks! Yes it was Bangor. Bad brain day, thanks for the heads up Galaxy.

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:21:20

You are welcome, am sure we can argue on that thread toogrin

AGAA4 Sun 15-Feb-26 13:22:09

Do women need to be told by Reform that our fertility declines as we age. Typical patronising men.
Many women successfully have children later in life. Their choice. We aren't just breeders to suit a political party's views.

People working in offices I think spend a lot of time chatting about things that are not work related whereas at home there isn't that distraction. No time taken up commuting either.

MayBee70 Sun 15-Feb-26 13:28:59

AGAA4

Do women need to be told by Reform that our fertility declines as we age. Typical patronising men.
Many women successfully have children later in life. Their choice. We aren't just breeders to suit a political party's views.

People working in offices I think spend a lot of time chatting about things that are not work related whereas at home there isn't that distraction. No time taken up commuting either.

Better for the environment, too. But that won’t matter to Reform, will it, with their Trump like attitude.

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:29:50

Well yes but there are coherent arguments against working from home, or in favour or 50/50 or whatever.

Cossy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:31:21

Kandinsky

*Matt Goodwin said on his YouTube channel in November 2024 that "many women in Britain are having children much too late in life*

That’s hardly controversial though is it.

Key Age-Related Factors & Recommendations
Best Fertility Years:
Late teens to late 20s offer the highest chances of conception (roughly 92% within one year).

Age 35+: Fertility declines, and risks of complications (such as gestational diabetes, pre-eclampsia, and chromosomal abnormalities) increase.

Age 40+: There is a higher risk of stillbirth and a greater likelihood of needing a C-section.

I’ll throw you over a few more straws to clutch at DaisyAnneReturns

It’s none of his business, as woman we don’t need to be told of the dangers etc., we are clever enough to work these out for ourselves.

Frankly, sorry if this sounds pedantic, but I don’t think ANY man has the right to draw attention to these things, especially not a hypocritical wannabe political (idiot) figure!

It is OUR choice when and how we have our babies. OUR choice to have, or not have babies. OUR choice, not men who haven’t, nor are likely to, met us!

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:32:43

Lots of concerns around young people in particular, lack of social networks when starting work, lack of mentors, etc.
A number of my team started the job during covid ( so all done remotely) they still talk about how awful it was.

AGAA4 Sun 15-Feb-26 13:35:30

Galaxy

Well yes but there are coherent arguments against working from home, or in favour or 50/50 or whatever.

What coherent argument for working in an office?

MaizieD Sun 15-Feb-26 13:36:31

AGAA4

Do women need to be told by Reform that our fertility declines as we age. Typical patronising men.
Many women successfully have children later in life. Their choice. We aren't just breeders to suit a political party's views.

People working in offices I think spend a lot of time chatting about things that are not work related whereas at home there isn't that distraction. No time taken up commuting either.

What I want to know is why Goodwin feels it to be incumbent upon himself to state the bl**ding obvious about women's fertility?

One might think that this 'fact' only appeals to those who think that white women should stay at home and have babies. I can't see it having much effect on persuading people to vote for him...

Galaxy Sun 15-Feb-26 13:39:28

Many people find working remotely very isolating, it is fascinating to watch the team I work with when we hold meetings remotely and in person. The difference in terms of social interaction are quite stark.
Many organisations particularly in care, children's services, place different teams together in the sane building in order to support multi agency working. Those day to day encounters frequently oil the wheels of that kind of co operation.