Jenrick for Chancellor 😱

Dorisdodar
People are voting for Reform because of mass immigration...it's as simple as that. Call them racist if you want I don't think that matters to them. The amount of people who have come to Britain is too much for us to cope with. The hard working natives find it difficult to get GP appointments can't get a NHS dentist can't get affordable housing..to these people the future looks grim. Why do you think they voted for Brexit? The same reasons as above

Well people seriously in want of an education then, as immigration by ‘small boats* has become a problem because of Brexit. The UK can no longer send by illegal immigrants because of Brexit - we could before Brexit. Farage and Johnson are directly responsible for promoting Brexit and telling lies about why it would be a good thing. It has not proved to be a good thing and illegal migration has become a problem directly as a result of it.

Divide and conquer. Works every time.

People are voting for Reform because of mass immigration...it's as simple as that. Call them racist if you want I don't think that matters to them. The amount of people who have come to Britain is too much for us to cope with. The hard working natives find it difficult to get GP appointments can't get a NHS dentist can't get affordable housing..to these people the future looks grim.
Why do you think they voted for Brexit? The same reasons as above.

It would be worthwhile if an investigative, but non threatening, Journalist could find a way to get to the bottom of why folk chose to vote Reform.

Jenrick has proven he is a dishonest man who his own team mates cannot even trust. He was criticised for his handling of the cladding crisis post Grenfell, he voted Remain at Brexit but changed his mind later claiming he backs Leave, He ramped up the purchase of hotels for Asylum Seekers but claimed Rwanda wasn’t a radical enough policy. In every role he had in the Tory Government he has failed and that is a government that despite 14 years in power and 5 Prime Ministers they left the country and the economy in a disastrous mess. Now he and the other Tory failures expect us to give them another go under the leadership of a Trump loving Farage who barely visits his own constituency or Parliament?
You would have to be morally and mentally challenged to vote for them.

nanna8

Farage is already very,very rich A million p.a.is chickenfeed to him. I think he is really in it for ‘fame’ and ego. Same applies to some ,but not all, of his mates. Which makes you question why he says he supports poor working people.

You may have some points.

I think the difference between him and so many others is, I am not convinced he wants power.
Therefore he can spend his time with "poor working people".

The media seek out Farage as they know he can be relied on to say something contentious or newsworthy in some way and he’s always happy to be in front of a camera.

I really don’t think anyone needs stress about either Jenryk or Reform at this stage so far from a GE.

AGAA4

Does Farage actually do any work? He loves media attention and would make a great ringmaster at the circus but leading a political party and heaven forfend the country is too much toil for him.

he seems to be on the telly every evening.
Though that could be my imagination.

^76% of people don’t want them.
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Crumbs. That is a lot of votes.

But dont know whether they fall in "wrong" places, to get many seats?

All assuming of course, things stay as they are. Which they certainly dont in politics nowadays.

'It's just right? 'Are you talking about Jenrick abusing his control of planning regulations to save millions for a Tory donor? Is that the ' right' under discussion?
Do you think what he did then was 'right'?

Peaseblossom

It's not far right, it's just right. We do not want to end up being a communist country!

Ok. So am not sure how you came to this conclusion.
Obviously we have now passed into a parallel universe.

Women do currently have this right in law although cultural practices may result in different approaches and outcomes. Casdon

It's not far right, it's just right. We do not want to end up being a communist country!

He’s a vile man - as are the Reform party . I’m sure he’ll fit in well

You’ve put words in my mouth ronib. I didn’t say that my choices should be everybody’s path. I said that women should have the right to make choices, and the right to have a career or a job, and that to decide to have no, or few, children and when to have them should be their choice not anybody else’s. If they choose to do so, as they can now, they can stay at home, accepting the financial and career consequences of doing so, that’s fine by me too, obviously.

Just because you were able to combine work and motherhood doesn’t mean that choice is widely wanted or available Casdon. For some mothers staying at home is the preferred option to shall we say working on a building site? In most cases, it’s sheer economic necessity though and it never used to be.
No one is forcing women to have babies. Abortion is very freely on demand.

Casdon

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Poor old 30p. No place for him in the Shady Cabinet.

Do we think he has one more defection in him?

Labour ➡ Tory ➡ Reform ➡ Restore?

Regurgitate?

REfuse - stress on the first syllable. Hopefully.

I’ve never met a man who wanted to be a woman and have lots of babies ronib, although I guess there must be a few of them out there, somewhere. Nor have I let my children down when they needed me.
It’s not a linear choice, is it, because we currently have the right to make our own choices as to how we live our lives. Penalising women for not having children, or expecting them to have lots of them and stay at home are not acceptable policies to me, although they may be to some people whose childbearing years are behind them so won’t be affected.

Men are never going to be equal to the breeding machine … they know their limitations. Casdon My idea of hell is not being with your children when they need you and being a cash machine for government. Take your choice.

I voted for them Freya as I have been a Labour voter all my life and thought that this government would be similar to the Tony Blair/ Brown years.How wrong could I be?They were voted for by others only to get the Conservatives out of power.
Starmer and Reeves, a terrible double act are ruining Labour after only 18 months or so in power.I can hardly believe it😖

MayBee70

Freya5

MayBee70

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Are Reform trying to scupper their chances?

I genuinely think this is all part of Farage’s plan to blow up the party and walk away. He's bored now.

Putting up the obnoxious Goodwin for Gorton & Denton. Sending Tice onto LBC to say they will reduce wages for young people. Braverman saying she will scrap the Equality Act - which among other things protects women’s maternity rights. How does that tie in with wanting women to have more children?

For all his noise, Farage doesn’t want to be Prime Minister. He said something today about .. if he falls under a bus (form an orderly queue to drive it please).

Restore will attract the hardcore racists and split the far-right vote.

Reform are 3 points down in the polls this week. 76% of people don’t want them.

The tide is turning.

I spoke to someone who worked with him and he said he never wanted to be PM. He just enjoys the power he seems to have over people and the thrill of the chase.

Labour won with only 33 1/3 percent of the votes. So the majority didn't vote for them. They only got in because of our voting system.

Strange thing is I don’t remember people talking about voting percentages before, only seats won. Imo a landslide is a landslide no matter what other figures people throw up.

The government elected has only won more than 50% of the vote once in any election since the end of the FIrst World War, and that was in 1931. It’s a non point.

ronib

Wow a positive family oriented society… how amazing that would be…. In your dreams…. Mums being financially secure looking after children?? How??

That’s most definitely not in my dreams ronib Being a breeding machine in my twenties for the government and being consigned to a caring role only for years, so that I was never equal to men in employment status is my idea of hell.

Freya5

MayBee70

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Are Reform trying to scupper their chances?

I genuinely think this is all part of Farage’s plan to blow up the party and walk away. He's bored now.

Putting up the obnoxious Goodwin for Gorton & Denton. Sending Tice onto LBC to say they will reduce wages for young people. Braverman saying she will scrap the Equality Act - which among other things protects women’s maternity rights. How does that tie in with wanting women to have more children?

For all his noise, Farage doesn’t want to be Prime Minister. He said something today about .. if he falls under a bus (form an orderly queue to drive it please).

Restore will attract the hardcore racists and split the far-right vote.

Reform are 3 points down in the polls this week. 76% of people don’t want them.

The tide is turning.

I spoke to someone who worked with him and he said he never wanted to be PM. He just enjoys the power he seems to have over people and the thrill of the chase.

Labour won with only 33 1/3 percent of the votes. So the majority didn't vote for them. They only got in because of our voting system.

Strange thing is I don’t remember people talking about voting percentages before, only seats won. Imo a landslide is a landslide no matter what other figures people throw up.

What's happened to Lee Anderson?

I think he's thinking to jump ship and joinig that other party?

The one with someone called Rupert in it?

Lee Anderson is good at one thing- chancing his arm with Labour, then the Tories, then Reform... wonder where he'll go next?