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Trumpoid article/rant by right-wing Sunday Telegraph editor aimed to polarise UK politics to match US

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Chocolatelovinggran Thu 19-Feb-26 20:29:44

Oh dear, sense of humour by pass, I fear, eazybee.
I am astonished that you know so much about my education and how well informed I am. Have we met?
I did challenge this gentleman's comments on how "left wing barbarians" have caused the " rejection of the presumption of innocence" which is, of course, factually incorrect..

sixandahalf Thu 19-Feb-26 20:16:02

sixandahalf

eazybee

Who is this mad old bat?

Someone who is rather better educated and informed than you.

And you know that because......?

But how could you possibly know what Chocolatelovinggran has to offer an it is in some way inferior?

MaizieD Thu 19-Feb-26 19:53:28

eazybee

^Who is this mad old bat?^

Someone who is rather better educated and informed than you.

'Well educated' people are quite capable of holding 'strange' opinions.

grumppa Thu 19-Feb-26 19:30:24

I came across the article today, and unfortunately broke my rule of not reading anything by him. My mistake!

eazybee Thu 19-Feb-26 18:34:30

I check information.

sixandahalf Thu 19-Feb-26 18:28:05

eazybee

^Who is this mad old bat?^

Someone who is rather better educated and informed than you.

And you know that because......?

eazybee Thu 19-Feb-26 18:18:15

Who is this mad old bat?

Someone who is rather better educated and informed than you.

Maremia Thu 19-Feb-26 15:51:11

Is the newspaper still in Limbo?
Hope someone sensible buys it.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 19-Feb-26 15:37:04

It does sound disturbingly like some of the pronouncements from across the pond.
When did " the presumption of innocence" end - except on the internet, perhaps?
What is the problem of a critical look at consumerism?
And as for the ," crisis in masculinity", I understood that the brothers Tate have lots of thoughts on this, and, disturbingly, many followers.
Who is this mad old bat?

MaizieD Thu 19-Feb-26 15:11:03

Allister Heath is really best ignored. What a strange ragbag of grievances..

Whitewavemark2 Thu 19-Feb-26 14:58:31

The Telegraph is not what it once was.

I don’t know which newspaper you would read now if you were centre right.

Elegran Thu 19-Feb-26 14:45:55

The tone of US political speechifying is echoed in this rant by Allister Heath. Britain, he says "is not merely broken: it has been hacked to pieces by a nihilistic ruling class committed todismembering our society. The methodical ruthlessness of thr Left-wing barbarians responsible, the relentlessness of their vandalism,the thoroughness of their infiltration of our institutions . . . "

among the resulting "calamities" he lists are:
- a belief that armed conflict and the need for resilience were obsolete
- New Labour's constitutional and judicial putsches, the rise of command and control welfarism, and mass redistribution under Gordon Brown
- drastically increased immigration, the spread of criticaal theory and anti-Western self-hatred
- the embrace of net zero, ani-developmentism and aniconsumerrism
- the turn against free markets
- the abandonment of monetary and fiscal probity
- the displacement of religious observance by secular ideologies such as Gaia worship, NHS ideolatry, and wokery
- the decline of marriage, the crisis of masculinity, the surge in loneliness, and the baby bust
- the embrace of lockdowns and authoritarianism
- the rejection of democracy, freedom, trial by jury, the presumption of innocence, and free speech.

Does he (or perhaps Reform, I am not sure what his exact political stance is) propose laws to force everyone to attend church, stay in an unhappy marriage, produce a large family and not be miserable under pain of arrest and imprisonment. It would be interesting to see his evidence for the rejections in the last items, which make Britain sound like the Wild West - kangaroo trials of dissenting spokemen like himself, guilty unless proven innocent, summary justice, lynchings, strange fruit on Tyburn Tree.