Huntley and comeuppance

I don't have any sympathy for Huntley but I certainly don't want him or any other offenders being attacked and injured in prison. What sort of world do some of you want to live in? We have laws, courts and at least some sort of justice system, it seems some would prefer a system which condones violence to others. I most certainly don't. People do really bad things but it seems in some people's eyes, if you do "really bad things" to some people, it's acceptable. No, it's not.

He is a vile man and his crimes are heinous.

But

I belive in the law and I believe to take the law into your hands
Is counterproductive and dangerous.

The slippery slope to the breakdown of a civilised society which would suit the vile and dangerous people in our society.

ViceVersa

I think it's perfectly possible to accept that justice is for the courts to mete out, and that there are considerable failings in the prison system as it stands, while at the same time not having an ounce of sympathy for the likes of Huntley or Watkins.

Yes I agree it is perfectly possible but there’s a difference between not having an ounce of sympathy and revelling isn’t there? I’m not sympathetic at all but I’m not glad it happened - that’s shocking.

I think it's perfectly possible to accept that justice is for the courts to mete out, and that there are considerable failings in the prison system as it stands, while at the same time not having an ounce of sympathy for the likes of Huntley or Watkins.

No sympathy whatsoever.

Actually GG I think some posters are more than content and I also would hazard a guess that those posters are not the slightest bit interested in the failings of our prison system as these very failings facilitated the attack in which they are revelling.

M0nica

That is sufficient. To hear other people who no doubt consider themselves, and are, kind loving people baying for blood like a small town lynch mob, brings fear to my heart. is that what everyone is at heart?

I’m not sorry for Mr Huntley, but what you describe as a ^lynch mob^seems to be increasingly common in the media.

Tuliptree

TillyTrotter

If we can’t trust School Caretakers with our innocent children we are allowed to applaud their demise when it happens.

There is a long long list of people we can’t trust our children with - are you suggesting that we throw them all to the mob for punishment?

It would free up some prison places.

TillyTrotter

You are questioning us Tuliptree under the guise of “I am really puzzled” etc.

Oh goodness me and here was I thinking this was a discussion forum - you know back and forth interactions when in fact it’s really meant to be a forum for simply stating an opinion which then must go unchallenged. Silly silly silly me.

I have personal connections to the town and the school. It’s a shame this attack didn’t happen during half term because the press will be all over it which causes disruption to the school day and the poor parents and families who were so bravely determined to move on with their lives.
Soham is not a village, as frequently reported in the media, it’s a small town with a population over 12,000 and I can guarantee there will be many who agree with the OP.

I don't condone violence but I can't express sympathy for Huntley,he took the lives of those little girls,they were innocent,he has been proven guilty

You are questioning us Tuliptree under the guise of “I am really puzzled” etc.

Tuliptree

GrannyGravy13

Personally I cannot condone violence, though I can understand the sentiment of those who are content with Huntley being attacked.

Instead at being content with his bring attacked, we should be concerned that our prisons can be so lawless.

They are not mutually exclusive Tuliptree

The UK prison system has its faults, probably deserves a thread on them.

GrannyGravy13

Personally I cannot condone violence, though I can understand the sentiment of those who are content with Huntley being attacked.

Agree with this.

It seems so strange to me that the people condemning Huntley’s violence wish to do violence themselves. Violence is ALWAYS wrong.

As someone once said “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind”.

TillyTrotter

Tuliptree you and I are not going to agree but each of us on this thread are entitled to our opinion without being cross-questioned about our reasons why.
I agree with Pantglas . End of.

I don’t understand what you mean - who is cross questioning whom?

Tuliptree you and I are not going to agree but each of us on this thread are entitled to our opinion without being cross-questioned about our reasons why.
I agree with Pantglas . End of.

Of course I feel utter anger and hatred towards Huntley, he took away the lives of two children and the lives of their families who surely only exist after such a tragedy.
And because of this I would probably wish him harm, but those who pass sentence and are in charge of his welfare whilst in prison cannot allow their emotions to dictate how they behave, they must punish Huntley in the eyes of the law, not be in favour of revenge as others outraged by this double murder obviously feel a tendency towards. So Huntley should be protected from harm whilst serving his sentence.

GrannyGravy13

Personally I cannot condone violence, though I can understand the sentiment of those who are content with Huntley being attacked.

Instead at being content with his bring attacked, we should be concerned that our prisons can be so lawless.

Bukkie

He deserves everything he gets for what he did to those 2 little girls. I have no sympathy for him and I cheered when I heard he had been hurt.

So those who rape and murder women, who started life as children do not count?

I don’t like the mob sentiment at all either, I agree with Monica and others Justice has been done and been seen to be done surely that why we have a justice system

Huntley has been assaulted twice before, with boiling water and a knife cut to his throat.

Personally I cannot condone violence, though I can understand the sentiment of those who are content with Huntley being attacked.

Pantglas2

In this short thread you’ve mentioned numerous cases of miscarriage of justice so why not open your own thread on that theme rather than try and suggest Huntley is undeserving of rough justice from his fellow cons.

Most convicts won’t tolerate crimes against children and in this instance and that other paedophile Ian Watkins I will sleep easy regardless of anyone’s opinion.

No one is deserving of the lynch mob. And I’m puzzled as to why anyone would automatically assume that any prisoner had the right to decide which of their fellow prisoners they had the right to attack. Some of these attacks anyway are not actually related to the type of crime the attacked prisoner has committed but to personal disputes, drug supplies, mobile phones and so on.

I thought deprivation of liberty was the purpose of prison punishment? I can't celebrate other convicts deciding on lynch mob mentality to inflict injury on another convict. You really think convicts should be 'punishing' other convicts? Do you have a baseline on who may decide what punishment on which other convict?

Out of those that TulipTree mentioned I especially think of Stefan Kiszko.

evidencebasedjustice.exeter.ac.uk/case/stefan-kiszko/

He was wrongly convicted of raping and murdering an 11 year old. What if these thugs had 'seriously injured' him. You'd be cheering that on? He lived for only one year after his eventual release and the four girls who had lied and said he exposed himself the previous day 'for a laugh' walked away scot free. I hope they had the grace to develop a conscience for the impact they contributed to on an innocent man. This is not whataboutery. We know Huntley is certainly guilty, but if you condone lynch mob mentality then what if Kiszko had suffered the same punishment?