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Israel and US hit Iran

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Fallingstar Sat 28-Feb-26 08:22:29

Trump promises increased bombing and regime change. They are presently hitting Tehran one of the most populated cities in the region.
My heart goes out to innocent Iranians.

Wyllow3 Tue 03-Mar-26 08:15:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4wgpdllleo

"Starmer at odds with Trump in biggest disagreement yet"

well worth a read:Trump is having the predictable tantrums

"Keir Starmer took questions from MPs for around two-and-a-half hours, spelling out that he thought the American and Israeli actions were not right and implying there were not lawful either - but that it was both right and lawful to authorise the US to use UK airbases to bomb Iranian missile launch sites, in order to protect British allies in the Gulf from attack.
The memory of the Iraq war was referred to repeatedly across the chamber, including by the Prime Minister.
A conflict that happened more than a decade before he became an MP and more than two decades before he arrived in Downing Street was key to the case he made for his outlook now."

Interestingly:
"An opinion poll by YouGov, external suggests far more people in Britain oppose the US's actions than support them and far more oppose the UK allowing the US to use British airbases than support that decision"

I don't think he had a choice there but Iraq is on everyone's minds above a certain age.

BTW, we have other interests in the region - remember when our fuel prices shot up when the war commenced with Ukraine -so we bought more from the middle east.

The BBC News feed gives the latest, its the only source with easy access to news.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy0dp1l57nxt

Maremia Tue 03-Mar-26 08:13:59

Confused.
Did Starmer say this was a 'legal' attack by Trump and Netanyahu?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-Mar-26 08:08:13

He is best simply ignored. Just as you do a toddler with a tantrum.

AGAA4 Tue 03-Mar-26 07:57:07

Trump is suggesting that Starmer is not getting involved in this war as he is pandering to the Muslim community. The special relationship is very sad he has said.
Starmer has made it clear that the UK didn't join the USA in attack because the war was not legal and there was no plan for the aftermath.
Trump has to make cheap digs if he doesn't get what he wants.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-Mar-26 07:44:03

I also hope someone still has their eye on Putin. He may well take advantage of this fandango and move to grab further territory.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-Mar-26 07:37:07

Germany, France and the U.K. seem to be coordinating their responses. France is extending its nuclear umbrella. (Whatever that means?) I guess it will use it to protect the alliance in Europe?

I hope someone suggests a stop soon to understand where we are going with all this. We can’t have WW3 by default, as happened with WW1.

David49 Tue 03-Mar-26 07:20:34

With so many aircraft chasing drones it's always risky loosing track of each other is always difficult to avoid it's not an air show display when everything is coordinated, thankful all crew are safe.

Norah Mon 02-Mar-26 21:38:15

Maremia

And next week, when Trump is bored and needs another distraction?

Three US fighter jets shot down mistakenly may distract.

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Mar-26 19:54:55

fancythat

I agree. I dont think Starmer has much choice.

Just think what flak he would get if he didnt defend 100,000 people trapped out there.

My conclusion, I'm not very happy tho, but lets see if the US transgresses the agreement on the use made of them.

Maremia Mon 02-Mar-26 19:32:14

Italian Prime Minister is not best pleased.

Smileless2012 Mon 02-Mar-26 19:31:04

Canada again?

Maremia Mon 02-Mar-26 17:20:39

And next week, when Trump is bored and needs another distraction?

Allira Mon 02-Mar-26 15:34:06

Allira

MayBee70

The PM will be making his decisions based on consultations with our military. And our European friends, too.He won’t be making them unilaterally will he.

I sincerely hope not.

Spain will not, Maybee.

www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/spain-denies-united-states-permission-military-bases-iran-pedro-sanchez

Allira Mon 02-Mar-26 15:29:45

MayBee70

The PM will be making his decisions based on consultations with our military. And our European friends, too.He won’t be making them unilaterally will he.

I sincerely hope not.

David49 Mon 02-Mar-26 15:09:26

Im sure nobody was tipped off it was pretty clear that it was close to starting with the build up thats been happening in the last month.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 02-Mar-26 14:55:14

Sarnia

7 countries being targeted now when they were not involved in the first place. Poor Clive Myrie sent out there to report. He says things may not be as clear cut as Trump and Netanyahu think as there have been thousands of protestors on the streets of Iran showing support to their current regime. I think these two may have opened a large can of worms.

Clive Myrie was reporting from Israel on BBC Breakfast News Saturday morning, coincidence or were TV stations tipped off

I am not usually one for conspiracy theories, but there is something about this surprise attack that doesn’t seem to be much of a surprise to some organisations.

(I have already posted that the U.K. Embassy in Tehran closed Friday evening with all staff relocated outside of the city)

Sarnia Mon 02-Mar-26 14:48:50

7 countries being targeted now when they were not involved in the first place. Poor Clive Myrie sent out there to report. He says things may not be as clear cut as Trump and Netanyahu think as there have been thousands of protestors on the streets of Iran showing support to their current regime. I think these two may have opened a large can of worms.

MayBee70 Mon 02-Mar-26 14:39:44

The PM will be making his decisions based on consultations with our military. And our European friends, too.He won’t be making them unilaterally will he.

fancythat Mon 02-Mar-26 14:29:04

I agree. I dont think Starmer has much choice.

Just think what flak he would get if he didnt defend 100,000 people trapped out there.

Casdon Mon 02-Mar-26 14:25:08

I think it’s highly likely that any UK government would allow their bases to be used, as are other European countries. We are defending our allies, unwillingly, but what other choice do we have exactly? We aren’t taking aggressive action. Should we have refused to allow defensive actions to operate from our bases and jeopardised our allies in the Middle East?

I am opposed to the action that USA and Israel took in the first place, but I’m struggling to understand where some people are coming from on this particular issue, particularly those who thought that it was a good plan to attack Iran.

Smileless2012 Mon 02-Mar-26 14:12:58

Trump isn't as disappointed in Starmer as I am for agreeing to this Fallingstar. He insults us and other European countries, shoots his mouth off about how great and wonderful the USA is so doesn't need anyone else, embarks on a war that only him and Netanyahu wants and then expects to receive any support he wants, when he wants it angry.

AGAA4 Mon 02-Mar-26 13:35:59

I do feel for the Arab states that opposed this war and have been brought into it.
Trump ignored their thoughts that war was the wrong way to go but sided with Netanyahu who is always in favour of war.
Pleasant for Trump peacefully playing golf while those countries are being bombed because they have US military there.

Fallingstar Mon 02-Mar-26 13:34:39

apple.news/AOg9uHjArSuKWECn4C5HRBw

Trump saying he is disappointed in Starmer for taking so long to let him use airbases on the Chagos Islands.
This does make me cross. Trump didn’t bother to ask allies about the sudden pressing need for a huge war with Iran that would lead to allies being dragged into it, nor did he bother to put it before congress.
But now he expects everyone to join in, despite distancing himself in every way from Europe and the UK, saying they never helped the US out before - completely forgetting Iraq abd Afhanistan, or that we should go our own way and not rely on the US.
So how about the US not relying on us in this latest war game?

David49 Mon 02-Mar-26 13:21:38

UK declares Iran war legal - collective self defence being allowed by international law

Some may disagree

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 02-Mar-26 13:03:10

Luckygirl3

I am not happy that UK is assisting in this illegal war, especially without consulting parliament.

We just become a target. And completely unnecessarily.

The UK was not involved in launching the initial US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

The UK has now permitted the United States to use British bases for strikes against Iranian missile sites, under a limited and defensive remit.

British forces are also engaging in defensive operations against Iranian attacks.

The UK interprets this as part of protecting its own forces, its citizens in the region, and regional allies, not as entering a full-scale war against Iran.

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