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Israel and US hit Iran

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Fallingstar Sat 28-Feb-26 08:22:29

Trump promises increased bombing and regime change. They are presently hitting Tehran one of the most populated cities in the region.
My heart goes out to innocent Iranians.

Aveline Sun 01-Mar-26 17:20:40

Middle East war seems to be ongoing. Russia's illegal invasion and ongoing war and all interlinked . Is this really the start of a third world war?

foxie48 Sun 01-Mar-26 17:02:52

Two ships have been hit near the Strait of Hormuz which is effectively closed. Israel is mobilising 1,000s of reservists, this is not going to be a short war despite what Trump wants.

Maremia Sun 01-Mar-26 16:35:26

My goodness, is that what this is all about 'acceptable to Israel'?

ronib Sun 01-Mar-26 16:27:54

The attack on Iran will continue until the regime is acceptable to Israel and the USA one Imagines. The technology exists to take out Iranian ministers sitting in a meeting and it will be used again. The previous ayatollah had drawn up four sets of named ministers so he was obviously aware of the threat.

AGAA4 Sun 01-Mar-26 16:22:25

I wouldn't trust the IDF as far as I could throw an elephant.
A group of them recently killed a Palestinian boy and then placed a stone by his dead hand to make it seem he had attacked them.
It was caught on camera but I doubt anyone would be disciplined.

Fallingstar Sun 01-Mar-26 16:18:48

AGAA4

Iran has named it's interim leaders one of whom is the president. They have said they won't give up and will carry on the attacks. More people will be killed.

I imagined that would be the case. And I also fear that the millions of Iranians who are not ordinarily supporters of the regime but not happy about US/Israeli intervention will now rally round the regime making them stronger rather than weaker.
We all know that a sizeable number of Iranians are out celebrating but this is a very big country with many millions of citizens.
It is after all an attack on a sovereign country no matter what we think of the regime.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Mar-26 16:17:44

The point is that Iran has built up its regime over 40 years with every institution working to support this regime. There is very little if any organised opposition.

Bombing alone will not rid the world of this regime. It will need an army to do so. But America is neither willing nor ready to do so.

foxie48 Sun 01-Mar-26 16:08:07

"Bomb the barracks."

I doubt the military are going to sit in their barracks waiting for a drone to drop a bomb on them. I hope the IDF don't help as they can't tell a school from a hospital and are likely to kill more women and children than soldiers.

petra Sun 01-Mar-26 16:07:33

Whitewavemark2

It seems to me that when looking at the list of passed failed USA campaigns, they have consistently underestimated the countries resilience.

The first coffin of an American soldier will be arriving back home.

That changes everything for Trump.

I’m a big fan of Frederick Forsyth. Some years ago he had a book published where he covered American intelligence Agencies.
There were 19 different agencies. The problem with this, was, every agency didn’t want to share what info they had with the other agencies 🤦🏼‍♀️

AGAA4 Sun 01-Mar-26 16:03:54

If a British citizen is killed things will change for us too.

foxie48 Sun 01-Mar-26 15:59:39

ronib

It’s really up to Iran to stop attacking Israel? It’s that simple.

Oh, so this all about Iran attacking Israel. Trump is saying it is about nuclear weapons and regime change but as it has been the Saudi Prince MBS and Netanyahu who have been pushing Trump, I suspect that is at least half right. I guess when MBS put 2 billion dollars into Trump's family business he bought himself a private army.

petra Sun 01-Mar-26 15:59:21

The piece in the Guardian on how many were murderedhttps://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

surfsup Sun 01-Mar-26 15:55:48

3 US servicemen killed and 5 seriously injured. More civilians killed in Israel. I dread to think how many Iranians have died already.

fancythat Sun 01-Mar-26 15:41:53

I suspect that changes nothing.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Mar-26 15:33:55

It seems to me that when looking at the list of passed failed USA campaigns, they have consistently underestimated the countries resilience.

The first coffin of an American soldier will be arriving back home.

That changes everything for Trump.

AGAA4 Sun 01-Mar-26 15:12:47

Iran has named it's interim leaders one of whom is the president. They have said they won't give up and will carry on the attacks. More people will be killed.

Oreo Sun 01-Mar-26 15:08:33

Maremia

Without putting 'boots on the ground', how will Trump and Netanyahu take out these Iranian fighters?
Without, of course, killing more innocents.

Bomb the barracks.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Mar-26 15:08:10

Iran now attacking the US Abraham Lincoln.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Mar-26 15:06:45

In order for the USA to rid Iran of the revolutionary guard and succeeding in changing the regime, the USA would have to put boots on the ground. I can’t see Congress ever agreeing to that.

Maremia Sun 01-Mar-26 15:03:20

Without putting 'boots on the ground', how will Trump and Netanyahu take out these Iranian fighters?
Without, of course, killing more innocents.

Oreo Sun 01-Mar-26 14:53:39

Except foxie48 theUS haven’t finished with them yet, neither has Israel. There may not be many left by that time of all the militia you mention.
It would be pointless for Iranians to do anything at this moment in time.

Maremia Sun 01-Mar-26 14:47:52

Nothing is simple in war.

Maremia Sun 01-Mar-26 14:47:16

And apparently, Trump is off playing golf just now.
The ordinary Iranians have very little chance against that list of armed men in foxie's post.

ronib Sun 01-Mar-26 14:45:34

It’s really up to Iran to stop attacking Israel? It’s that simple.

foxie48 Sun 01-Mar-26 14:43:33

Oreo

ronib

In excess of 36500 in two days in January 2026. Killed by the Iranian State.

Yes, exactly, there will be no comparison as only a few hundred dead in Iran at the moment, almost all members of the regime.

36,500 dead in two days. Which shows how ruthless the Iranian regime is towards it's own people when they rebel. If the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) stays loyal to the current regime and there is no indication that it won't, they will kill very many more than 36,500. Add to that the Quds Force (special operations) and the Basij paramilitary militia plus the thousands of reservists and the current regime has a very powerful means of controlling unarmed protesters. Regime change relies on at least some of the military changing sides and up to now there has been little evidence to suggest they will. Trump's huge error is suggesting regime change when there is little practical choice for rebellion except standing in front of armed men and asking for it. Sadly we've already seen how that plays out.

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