Starmer rebukes Trump

Sarnia 10.17. I agree entirely.

I am not Sir Keir's biggest fan but I thought he spoke very well at PMQ's. We don't need a PM making knee-jerk reactions just to kow-tow to Trump and his illegal war.

imaround

Thank you to Starmer and the people of Great Briton for trying to keep our soldiers, and yours, safe.

They deserve better than to be ruled by this monster. 6 US soldiers have already been killed for this illegal war, and these soldiers can not deny orders.

According to a senator on cnn this morning, ^its not a war, it’s a strategic military operation^🤦🏼‍♀️ You couldn’t make it up, could you 🤷‍♀️

Post above to Oreo

The ship you talk about going to Cyprus is being loaded with ammunition and will be there next week not in a fortnight.
The MOD is intercepting drone attacks on Cyprus. There are RAF typhoons already deployed

The same UK armed services that Trump said had done nothing in the Iraq and Afghan wars.

Tbh Oreo nobody was really given much time to respond to this war, seeing as nobody knew about it, everybody is scrambling to do what they can. If Trump wanted allies to be involved he should have gone the same route the US has done in years gone by inasmuch as having discussions with allies beforehand and seeking the approval of the UN. He can’t just suddenly shout ‘war!’ and expect everyone to jump to attention, that is not how it works. And I imagine the majority of people in this country would not be happy if Starmer made any commitment to a war that is illegal, with no clear aims, that could cost our country dear not only with regard to spending on defence but the lives of UK armed services.

Cyprus and other countries are really angry with the UK weak response to defending them.We have two military bases in Cyprus so need to step up to the plate where defence of the island is concerned.
We have one ship able to go there and it won’t be there for a fortnight!
The one aircraft that was going to pick up British people needing to get back here didn’t take off as the pilot had too many flying hours!
What has this country come to🤬

Visgir1

I have never been a fan of Starmer, but Trump needs to be reminded that Churchill repeatedly asked the USA for help in the 2WW... Only Pearl Harbour brought the USA in.

Quite!!

His response to Trump was spot on IMO. I'm fed up with the constant references to a special relationship with the US which only seems to apply when Trump tells our government to jump and expects it to respond with 'how high'.

Crossed posts Casdon!

My understanding is that the people of Britain have indicated, very clearly, that the majority are with Mr Starmer on his decisions in relation to the USA's bombing of Iran.
Are the citizens of New Zealand and Australia aware of different polls, nanna8?

nanna8

The majority support Starmer? That’s not what we’re hearing over in NZ and Oz. I think he is absolutely and unequivocally the worst PM you have ever had. Still, Im obviously in a minority.

His efforts to distance the UK from offensive action in Iran is widely supported here. That’s what was meant.

I have never been a fan of Starmer, but Trump needs to be reminded that Churchill repeatedly asked the USA for help in the 2WW... Only Pearl Harbour brought the USA in.

It shows strength to stand up to Trump. The UK are still not attacking Iran and only working to keep Britain and British citizens abroad safe.
I'm glad we have a PM who hasn't followed Trump into an illegal war.

I guess you didn't notice how awful was Liz Truss.

Should the above be reported ? Suspicious but maybe it is genuine ?

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The majority support Starmer? That’s not what we’re hearing over in NZ and Oz. I think he is absolutely and unequivocally the worst PM you have ever had. Still, Im obviously in a minority.

Oreo

Wyllow3

I can't imagine stopping being political even in a care home with substantial physical needs.

You are who you are and that's patronising to assume people don't want to engage politically imo. I know a 92 year old who needs a lot of care but is as sharp as a knife.

Of course it's significant what the public think! We don't want another Iraq!!!

Sigh!
Come and do my job for a week.

You never met my mum.

Basgetti

Oreo

There was a lot of objections to the war with Argentina, particularly from the left and when one of our subs sank the Belgrano.

A minority. I remember the day it broke out. Everyone at college was supportive.

I remember the day it broke out too the 2nd April 1982 and everyone was very worried.

Wyllow3

I can't imagine stopping being political even in a care home with substantial physical needs.

You are who you are and that's patronising to assume people don't want to engage politically imo. I know a 92 year old who needs a lot of care but is as sharp as a knife.

Of course it's significant what the public think! We don't want another Iraq!!!

Sigh!
Come and do my job for a week.

Oreo

Not that public opinion or polls matter if it’s the right thing to do.
Starmer sat on the fence for a while as he always does before agreeing that the US could use our bases.

Because he adjudged it an illegal attack. He did exactly the right thing. Once UK bases were attacked, whole different story.

Oreo

There was a lot of objections to the war with Argentina, particularly from the left and when one of our subs sank the Belgrano.

A minority. I remember the day it broke out. Everyone at college was supportive.

Not that public opinion or polls matter if it’s the right thing to do.
Starmer sat on the fence for a while as he always does before agreeing that the US could use our bases.