Why does Trump give so much support to Netanyahu and Israel

What God says goes.
He isnt going to change Jews and Jerusalem for anyone!

And if every race and nation reverted to how things were all that time ago, ethnic Europeans would be obliged to leave all of America and Australia.
Is that a sensible proposal?

The Bible, a collection of writings from two and a half thousand years ago.

Whitewavemark2

I sometimes wonder if it had been far more sensible to carve off a piece of the USA and given it to the Jews, instead of the Middle East.

It would have saved a great deal of hassle for everyone concerned imo.

Not a chance.

Israel is all about the Bible.
Jerusalem Holy City and all that.

Which makes their land grabbing all the more distasteful AGA.

The problems began when Israel was given a bigger percentage of the country than the Palestinians even though there were more of them.

What astonishes me Maremia is that this is ignored overlooked. We're constantly being told that Israel's surrounded by enemies as if it's entirely innocent of any wrong doing.

Maremia

Is anyone able to post that map of how Israel was supposed to be 'shared' after the creation of the State?
I only came to it recently, and was astonished at how much land has been lost by the Palestine people since then.

Is this any help? An article from the BBC with maps

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54116567?trk=public_post_comment-text

Is anyone able to post that map of how Israel was supposed to be 'shared' after the creation of the State?
I only came to it recently, and was astonished at how much land has been lost by the Palestine people since then.

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

I think at the time, locations in South America were being considered.

Yes, now you’ve said that I remember it.

South America as a Jewish homeland ? That was never going to happen, they decided it was going to be Palestine, fought for it and won.
Since 1947 they have armed themselves with nuclear weapons as deterrent, they are there to stay, we have seen how effective they are with conventional weapons. If the US was not supporting them nobody should doubt they would use nuclear weapons if invaded, That is why the US is giving aid to surrounding Arab nations - to leave Israel alone. We are seeing what the current conflict is doing to global trade, think what nuclear strikes could do, it could close the gulf for years.

Iam64

It’s the view of people I know and consider extreme left leaning, thst a Jewish homeland in America should have been set up post ww2.
The main problem with this imo, is America is nit, never has been a historical Jewish homeland. In the Warsaw and other ghettos, Jewish people were talking about their need to return to the area of the Middle East that had been their homeland before they were driven out.

My musings were purely hypothetical of course.

My thoughts were that the Jewish folk would have been more welcomed, without the resentment over the years, and lived in peace, although I suppose anyone whose land was taken away from them to give to another would be a tad peeved.

Personally I’d trade peace for religious doctrine every day of the week.

I think that the main argument for the Israeli settlement would have come from the Zionists who had largely won the argument at the beginning of the century.

Jewish people were talking about their need to return to the area of the Middle East that had been their homeland before they were driven out

Now other people are being driven out and starved.

Yes, hiraeth in Wales

The USA has over the centuries become the sanctuary for many persecuted religious groups, and I find the history of the setting up and development of the nation quite fascinating. I doubt whether Trump knows or cares about that though.

It’s the view of people I know and consider extreme left leaning, thst a Jewish homeland in America should have been set up post ww2.
The main problem with this imo, is America is nit, never has been a historical Jewish homeland. In the Warsaw and other ghettos, Jewish people were talking about their need to return to the area of the Middle East that had been their homeland before they were driven out.

Maremia

I think at the time, locations in South America were being considered.

Yes, now you’ve said that I remember it.

I think at the time, locations in South America were being considered.

Whitewavemark2

I sometimes wonder if it had been far more sensible to carve off a piece of the USA and given it to the Jews, instead of the Middle East.

It would have saved a great deal of hassle for everyone concerned imo.

This is exactly what I said to my husband the other day. It is so sad that a peaceful solution cannot be found.

I sometimes wonder if it had been far more sensible to carve off a piece of the USA and given it to the Jews, instead of the Middle East.

It would have saved a great deal of hassle for everyone concerned imo.

Trump’s father was close to Netanyahu so taking that into account alongside the fact that the US Govt is heavily influenced by AIPAC which is considered one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, D.C.. It works to influence politicians' votes, secure U.S. aid for Israel, and shape Middle East policy. It has been described as a "major force" in shaping U.S. policy in the Middle East, able to push legislation through Congress with broad support - that’ll give you a good idea why.

No way should we be following a man who is a war criminal into an illegal war.

Well, we have very different views Cossy and that’s ok.

“Oreo

Cossy
Arto1s
Why shouldn’t the USA ally themselves with Israel? Would you rather they joined forces with terrorists?

Good grief! Not Israel per se it’s Netanyahu who is the issue, it’s the Trump and Netanyahu duo which I feel worries most people!

Not Israel per se?
Since BN is the leader he represents Israel.Israel and the US have my support in this conflict with Iran but more importantly the people in Israel support it too.They have had enough one way and another with Iran.”

Do the citizens of Israel support and welcome BN and another war? Do you not think they’ve more than enough fighting and warmongering and losing their innocents?

I don’t see them, imo, supporting Trump and BN, in just the same way as many American Citizens don’t support Trump or War.

This doesn’t just affect Israel, USA and Iran, it affects the entire ME and most NATO countries.

Shame on BN and Trump!

Cossy

Arto1s

Why shouldn’t the USA ally themselves with Israel? Would you rather they joined forces with terrorists?

Good grief! Not Israel persay, it’s Netanyahu who is the issue, it’s the Trump and Netanyahu duo which I feel worries most people!

Not Israel per se?
Since BN is the leader he represents Israel.Israel and the US have my support in this conflict with Iran but more importantly the people in Israel support it too.They have had enough one way and another with Iran.

grannygranby

Jews in America are only 2% of the population, they punch above their weight in community involvement, education and voter turnout …voting Democrat.

The Evangelical Christian presence however is vast (about 58 million) and they believe in ‘Israel’ as it’s in the bible and therefore God protected ..and they vote Republican.

Whether Trump believes that or not is irrelevant, that is where he gets the votes. And that is why Israel is heavily supported. It is by the evangelical Christians.

So, in terms of the historic battles of the Abrahamic religions: the Christians initially won the biggest world share, pursuing and destroying Jews internally and fighting Muslims externally, for new lands to conquer.
Since then most Jews and Christians have felt safe ditching religious dogma, becoming secular, multicultural and liberal whereas Muslims rarely have. They tend to be more religious and therefore patriarchal. Ironically it is the Muslims who are being supported by young ‘progressives’ somehow not believing how reactionary and powerful Muslim States can be by dictat only seeing them as victims of Israel. The obvious suffering of Afghan and Iranian women has not been enough.
it is not Islamophobic to see Islam’s massive growth in world power. And that will not be good for half the human race, for their freedoms, their education or their autonomy. I think that’s worth fighting for.

Thanks for posting this, I was going to say something on the same lines but now don’t have to.👍🏻