Why does Trump give so much support to Netanyahu and Israel

I've no idea foxie but I seriously doubt it's to appease American Jews. He's clearly doing whatever Netanyahu wants and is too stupid to see that once again he's being played, just like Putin's played him.

I am not sure. But the current conspiracy theory is that N has info on T and Epstein. I don't believe that, but files has said that Epstein used this tactic.

It is all about the oil, IMO. And $$$.

His only concern is becoming a trillionaire off the American people. And he is succeeding.

Another question is, does he actually understand what he is doing?

Marjorie Taylor Greene is not one of my favourite politicians, but she is asking the same question.

Of any of you are SNL fans. They totally nailed Hegseth this week.

Basically it's US Imperialism, with Israel as partners, they are trying to gain control over the region, and its resources.

Since Trump is struggling to Make America Great" from within, with an initial isolationist policy, Trump is seeking to big himself and his rich mates up.

Trump has made friends with the rich Saudi royals, and other countries where the wealth stays near the top, and now is seeking to ideologically occupy other Arab countries and control, no doubt, oil flow.

By doing this of course, he is effectively attacking swathes of Europe including the UK who currently rely on oil and gas from the region. Trump is course is also carrying the same policy through in areas of Latin America.

How long will the Arab ordinary people tolerate this...it's just pushing more into extremism, in my mind, not helping countries developing democracies.

Including not actually being really interested in more rights for women - as he is quite prepared to support reactionary if not tyrannical governments as regards women in the region.

Israel has always been part of the expansionist plans of the US in the ME.
I am really glad that the Jewish people got a place to call home after the Second World War, that was so important at but am afraid it became the same old story of successive Jewish governments grabbing land and getting rid of Palestinians who have every right to live there too. Which plays well to the US because they are pretty good at getting into wars in the ME, occupying, and killing the innocent citizens there.
I love Israel, have skin in the game, but like countless people of Jewish origin abroad I despise what has happened. It is truly criminal but at the same time sadly predictable inasmuch as it shows no people are immune to the corrupting influence of power and greed.

Wyllow3

Basically it's US Imperialism, with Israel as partners, they are trying to gain control over the region, and its resources.

Since Trump is struggling to Make America Great" from within, with an initial isolationist policy, Trump is seeking to big himself and his rich mates up.

Trump has made friends with the rich Saudi royals, and other countries where the wealth stays near the top, and now is seeking to ideologically occupy other Arab countries and control, no doubt, oil flow.

By doing this of course, he is effectively attacking swathes of Europe including the UK who currently rely on oil and gas from the region. Trump is course is also carrying the same policy through in areas of Latin America.

How long will the Arab ordinary people tolerate this...it's just pushing more into extremism, in my mind, not helping countries developing democracies.

Including not actually being really interested in more rights for women - as he is quite prepared to support reactionary if not tyrannical governments as regards women in the region.

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I was devastated when I realised that Fallingstar. My family had supported Jewish refugees after the war to the UK and eventually their - and my - idealism- around the "safe haven" was unrealistic. I think my Dad would have turned over in his grave had he known about Gaza. He'd actually joined with others in the Cable Street fights of 1936

(AI summary of Cable Street)
"The Battle of Cable Street (October 4, 1936) was a major violent clash in East London where local residents, largely Jewish and Irish, united with communists, socialists, and anarchists to stop a march by Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists (BUF). Over 100,000 residents successfully blocked the "Blackshirts" from marching through the Jewish East End"

Two men who's desire for more wealth and power is killing people across the middle east and causing chaos for other parts of the world.

I hope both get their comeuppance one day ......soon.

Israel is the 51st state of America. They are one and the same. Most people from Israel who are interviewed on tv speak with American accents. It is a shame the extremists on both sides ruin everything for the peaceful majority.

Because the illusion that certain Middle East destinations are havens of peace has been shattered, some Rulers are obviously unhappy with Iran, but also with Trump. There is 'chatter' about them planning to pull out of deals made with Trump.

Trump is now asking Herzog to pardon Netanyayu so he can focus on the war in Iran. What does Netanyayu have on Trump? Is this back to the Epstein files?

Fallingstar

Israel has always been part of the expansionist plans of the US in the ME.
I am really glad that the Jewish people got a place to call home after the Second World War, that was so important at but am afraid it became the same old story of successive Jewish governments grabbing land and getting rid of Palestinians who have every right to live there too. Which plays well to the US because they are pretty good at getting into wars in the ME, occupying, and killing the innocent citizens there.
I love Israel, have skin in the game, but like countless people of Jewish origin abroad I despise what has happened. It is truly criminal but at the same time sadly predictable inasmuch as it shows no people are immune to the corrupting influence of power and greed.

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Israel will never be safe until Hezbollah and Hamas working with Iran are eradicated from attacking it. In order to stop many years of future wars it’s right to at least try to eradicate the enemy. Israel will never lie down and let any terrorist groups walk over them again. Hamas and Hezbollah must stop.

Yes ronob, this is Israel's war, isn't it?
Netanyahu's war.
There was no threat to the USA.

You can never eradicate terrorist organisations with bombs and guns, you eradicate them by removing the reasons that people support them. Israel went into Lebanon for the third time in 2006, destroyed infrastructure and killed many Lebanese people but it failed to suppress Hezbollah, it just went underground and regrouped!

foxie48

You can never eradicate terrorist organisations with bombs and guns, you eradicate them by removing the reasons that people support them. Israel went into Lebanon for the third time in 2006, destroyed infrastructure and killed many Lebanese people but it failed to suppress Hezbollah, it just went underground and regrouped!

This. It’s a truth we in Britain have eventually accepted in so many places.
I’ve visited Israel, have Jewish friends with strong connections. I’m distressed that Netanyahu, ably supported by Trump is further isolating the country by this war.
Hezbollah and Hamas will grow in number in response. Iraqi Kurds are being bombed , the whole region is increasingly unstable.
Trump and Netanyahu won’t care about populations of refugees they’re creating, where will these people seek sanctuary? Egypt is absorbing thousands

foxie48

You can never eradicate terrorist organisations with bombs and guns, you eradicate them by removing the reasons that people support them. Israel went into Lebanon for the third time in 2006, destroyed infrastructure and killed many Lebanese people but it failed to suppress Hezbollah, it just went underground and regrouped!

Is a vicious circle Foxie48, they eradicate some members but young men who see their families killed by Israeli bombs are probable pretty quick to join up and replace those who have been eradicated. And even if Hamas and Hezbollah are successfully eradicated another group with another name will spring up in their place, as ISIS did after the Iraq war.
Killing doesn’t get rid of extremism it fans the flames for future generations.
So Netanyahu isn’t making Israel safer he is making Israel and the whole region many times more unsafe.

However hard they try Israel will never be rid of the ideology that fuels groups like Hamas Hezbollah and others.
I don't believe Israel will be safer after this war. It's destabilised the middle east creating an environment where extreme groups flourish.

You can never eradicate terrorist organisations with bombs and guns, you eradicate them by removing the reasons that people support them.

Such wise words, foxie but what makes it so difficult for people to understand this? Is it a ‘man thing’?

I think the continual resort to war and violence is very much a male trait and a measure of how ineffectual women’s attempts to assert their equality have been.

We’ve had this debate on Gnet before, of course.

I agree MaizieD the other day in the news they described this new world order as dominated by strong arm tactics, with much more muscular geopolitics. Perhaps the age of diplomacy and dialogue are now a thing of the past and we can only look forward to an age of war war and no jaw jaw. Terrifying, especially seeing as this will impact the global economy and billions will fall below the poverty line, including here in the UK where increases in the cost of living will tip those just managing over the edge.

foxie48

You can never eradicate terrorist organisations with bombs and guns, you eradicate them by removing the reasons that people support them. Israel went into Lebanon for the third time in 2006, destroyed infrastructure and killed many Lebanese people but it failed to suppress Hezbollah, it just went underground and regrouped!

Not just with bombs and guns but Jews in Israel is a fact of life they are not going away, Arabs keep attacking Jews who protect themselves with increasing force, resulting in the catastrophe of Gaza .

Regardless of the mistakes and injustices of the past the Arabs have got to stop attacking Israel, accept joint administration and control their own extremists. Until that happens terrorists will continue attacking whether sponsored by Iran or not.

But that is not the only problem in the region the moderate Islamic government's get attacked by fundamentalist Islamic terrorists. Egypt gets $ billions every year to control extremists thats nothing to do with oil.

Most Muslims want peace, stopping Iran sponsoring extremists is the first stage of stabilizing the whole region. It seems Trump has set that task as his goal "IF" he is successful it will be a big boost to his popularity.

We are already seeing an increase in support for the Iran action in the US, the dog in the manger Democrats oppose everything that Trump is involved in, that will be bad for them at the mid term elections. If Trump fails he is toast, so he will throw everything at Iran and so will Israel, they will win, I just don't see how yet

It will also affect the poorest most leading to more economic migrants desperately searching for a better life and with more instability there will be more refugees fleeing from war.