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Women in Afghanistan

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Sallywally1 Fri 13-Mar-26 06:41:01

Just read in the guardian (sorry I don’t know how to include links) where a judge said to a woman seeking a divorce that’s it’s all right if a man beats a woman and ‘a few beatings won’t hurt you’. Whilst Afghanistan is obviously not typical of the situation of women in say, the UK it does seem as if the world is going backwards in women’s rights, particularly in the light of the so called Mano sphere.

Galaxy Fri 13-Mar-26 16:07:45

There was one, it was closed. It wasn't specifically for women I don't think but for those identified as vulnerable under the regime.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 16:00:11

Is there a sponsorship plan for Afghan women, as there was for the Ukrainians?
That worked.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 15:35:26

Have just read her 'wiki', and she seems quite hardline, but hey ho, I'll give it a go.

Oreo Fri 13-Mar-26 15:21:40

Whitewavemark2

What I think is really unforgivable is that the west opened a window for Afghanistan women and allowed them to think that they had the right to education and other freedoms like freedom from the tyranny of the burka, being stoned to death, going out and about without male escort etc.

Then we shut it with a loud bang.

What a dreadful thing to do.

It was….but none of the Western countries could really stay there forever.
People grumble about Western interference and grumble when it ends too.The men in Afghanistan need to change as do the men in India and Pakistan, change the old ways such as wife beating and rape of unprotected girls and women.

Oreo Fri 13-Mar-26 15:14:10

Afghanistan is a terrible place for women, much like Iran, maybe worse.India and Pakistan are awful for women too.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 15:06:56

So that would be Shabana Mahmood.
Hope this Thread doesn't drop too soon, so I can find the details.
News and Politics. Will be able to find it.
If you ask a relevant question, you usually get an answer.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 15:03:32

Might be worth a letter to the relevant Minister?

Iam64 Fri 13-Mar-26 14:59:50

Thanks for the link MaizieD. I heard a radio 4 news piece about this. I am angry this courageous young woman is not being made an exception of.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 14:03:20

Yes, wonder if this will be appealed?

MaizieD Fri 13-Mar-26 13:49:32

Well, this very recent story didn't make me weep, it made me angry.

I know nothing about the organisation I've linked to. It was also in the Independent but that is usually paywalled.

!8 year old Afghan girl with scholarships to two UK universities denied a student visa.

Angry that we can't make exceptions for cases like this.

britbrief.co.uk/politics/immigration/afghan-girls-uk-university-dream-blocked-by-visa-ban.html

petra Fri 13-Mar-26 13:05:45

Listen and weep 😥
Muslim women and the Dawha Bros.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002rdcv

fancythat Fri 13-Mar-26 11:58:57

Maremia

fancythat, was the young man in that film you watched ever trying to address the situation of women in his country?

Not that I saw. At all.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 11:44:15

Can we do anything to stop the rot on social media?

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 11:43:10

It was dreadful WhiteWave. The West 'led them on'.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Mar-26 11:37:33

What I think is really unforgivable is that the west opened a window for Afghanistan women and allowed them to think that they had the right to education and other freedoms like freedom from the tyranny of the burka, being stoned to death, going out and about without male escort etc.

Then we shut it with a loud bang.

What a dreadful thing to do.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Mar-26 11:36:41

ie
oh, but he's such a lovely man, he couldn't have possibly done x

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Mar-26 11:34:54

Maremia

Most religions this millenia are Patriarchal.
Earlier 'pagan' beliefs, but not all, worshipped the Mother Goddess.
Worthy of its own Thread.

I've always known this, but did an online course on feminist theology.

Women were the Mother goddess before it was known that men had any part in making babies, doing the most important thing, ie producing the next generation.

Of course, by the time male based religions got a hold, it was then believed that all women did was to "grow the mans seed".

The fact that it's an equal undertaking in the initial producing bit, but women actually do the real work, still seems to escape many.

The fear of women being powerful? Years of indoctrination generation to generation cast women's power as dangerous and transgressive has not yet gone.

Thank fully of course most of us probably also know men who love and accept that power, not just in the birth aspects, but our abilities to understand the world in a "different but equal" way.

(what shocked me in my recent experience was that the other men in our smallish group were more supportive than some of the women. The men thought, "that was disgusting, I'd never do that to a woman, if I fancied her, I'd ask her out for coffee.

but some of the older women I'm sad to say thought and said "oh, but he's such a lovely man!" blah blah.

keepcalmandcavachon Fri 13-Mar-26 11:22:55

Iam64

Maremia - I often ask why so many men are sexually physically and emotionally abusive towards women. Rarely get any response. Is it something worthy of its own thread ? My feeling is misogyny is rising

I think you are correct to feel misogyny is on the increase Iam64, it also seems that hate directed towards any group is rife now. Be it generational, ethnicity or political based.
Social media/internet has now enabled the hate filled bigot to have the audience and validation that they thrive on.
Whereas years ago they would have been known (and avoided) in their community, they are now a combined 'force' .I find it quite terrifying to be honest, the potential for harm should not be taken lightly.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 11:03:54

I can't get my head round the fact that one in five femicide killers are the sons.
Don't think that has anything to do with religion.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 11:00:17

Most religions this millenia are Patriarchal.
Earlier 'pagan' beliefs, but not all, worshipped the Mother Goddess.
Worthy of its own Thread.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 10:57:47

fancythat, was the young man in that film you watched ever trying to address the situation of women in his country?

fancythat Fri 13-Mar-26 10:56:57

There are many Countries where standards of acceptable behaviour are very low.

I wouldnt really want to bring religion into it, but I dont think it can be ignored.

Does anyone know, off the tops of the heads, which religions think abusing women is perfectly ok?

I dont know the religion of Afghanistan, but will look it up later.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 10:54:17

When I watch videos on Facebook, there are ads in between.
One of the most common is the one about 'when boys log on, within a few clicks, they are led to misogynistic content'.
There you have it 'content'.
We must attempt to legislation more effectively about this creeping brain washing.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Mar-26 10:53:13

It was the old old story of a well respected and powerful male needing to hang on not just to how others saw him, but how he saw himself as one of the good guys.

Maremia Fri 13-Mar-26 10:50:14

I am glad your personal situation is being properly dealt with Wyllow.