Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

I really dont think most people living in Europe still have a grasp of how big the US is compared to them.

Even now.

Or perhaps they do, thinking about it.
And just dont like to admit it to themselves.
It makes them feel so uncomfortable to do so.

AGAA4

Thank you Casdon those figures align with what I have read. Poland contributes 4.1% Estonia 3.4% with the US the same at 3.4%.

3.4% of a massively bigger pie!

Our UK navy I read today, is the smallest it has been since 1642!

If NATO becomes 70% smaller...well
Heaven help all of us.
And I mean that.

I was reacting to the ^Smileless2012 comment 17.37pm.
About Trump being an asset to NATO.

If Trump pulls out, I think they are going to notice!!

Thank you Casdon those figures align with what I have read. Poland contributes 4.1% Estonia 3.4% with the US the same at 3.4%.

My question is so what fancythat, why did you mention that and what difference do you see it making, do you think the other 32 countries count for nothing without the USA?

And most will already know anyway.

And no I wont spell it out.
As people can read for themselves.

You are doing it again.

But my point still stands!!!!!!!!!

I always like the facts laid out in full fancythat, because snippets of information can be misleading.

Top NATO Contributors (Absolute Defense Spending - 2023/2024 Estimates)
United States: ~$860+ billion (approx. 68% of total)
Germany: ~$86 billion
United Kingdom: ~$81 billion
France: ~$50-60 billion (consistently top 4)
Poland: ~3.9%–4.12% of GDP (highest relative spender)
GOV.UK
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NATO Countries by Population (Approx. Key Members)
United States: ~340 million
Turkey: ~85 million
Germany: ~83 million
United Kingdom: ~67 million
France: ~66 million

Key Trends:
Defense Spending (% of GDP): In 2024/2025, Poland and Estonia consistently lead in relative spending, often surpassing the U.S. percentage.
Common Funding: The 2019/2024 agreements adjusted direct budget contributions to reduce the U.S. share and increase Germany's and others.
Shift to East: Countries bordering Russia (e.g., Baltic states, Poland) have significantly increased spending.
www.nato.int
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Note: Data for 2024/2025 reflects high-growth estimates in response to regional conflicts.
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It may not do.

But it's GDP is vast!

And contirubtes 70% of all NATO funds!

I did wonder if you would try and word things in that way.

The USA does not contribute the largest percentage of its GDP to defence of all the NATO members, however. There are 31 other countries in NATO.

But you may not mean things in that way.

The US is 70% of the spending of NATO.

Quote, NYT March 26, 2026 "Trump is the fulfillment of what America has always been — a self-satisfied nation, granted license by its myths about providence and exceptionalism to do whatever it wants."

"The war in Iran has shattered this binary. It is, to be sure, the product of Trump’s unique recklessness, as he plunges heedlessly into a conflict his predecessors had been wise to avoid. Yet it is also the logical terminus of decades of American history — the country’s addiction to technological wizardry to wage war at a distance, the blinkered belief that it could shape events in faraway places by force, the steady whittling away of constitutional limits on the presidency."

Sensible explanation.

Well he's certainly not an asset to NATO or the American people Iam.

Allira

Maremia

I get the impression that Trump doesn't plan. That he acts on impulse.

It seems that way.

You'd think he was the Fifth Column, out to destroy the West. He plays right into Putin's hands, and whoever else is waiting quietly for the outcome of all this disruption he is causing.

Is he a Russian asset as the internet has claimed for years.

He’s certainly destabilising every country he decides to involve himself in

Maremia

I get the impression that Trump doesn't plan. That he acts on impulse.

Agree he’s impulsive, reckless and dangerous!
IMO we were all on edge at start of 2026 with Putin…now Trump is the ‘devil’

War

"Saddam Hussein was slaughtering his own people which was one justification for the Iraq war. Which, in retrospect was the wrong thing to do"

Some have said we should have encouraged Saddam Hussein to continue the Iran - Iraq was and let him sort out the extremists. With hindsight it may have been a better option than the result of the WMD fiasco.

Maremia

I get the impression that Trump doesn't plan. That he acts on impulse.

It seems that way.

You'd think he was the Fifth Column, out to destroy the West. He plays right into Putin's hands, and whoever else is waiting quietly for the outcome of all this disruption he is causing.

Though I never knew a war could be done that way.

You could be right.

I get the impression that Trump doesn't plan. That he acts on impulse.