Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

We are not walking in their shoes…

We may not all be walking in their shoes but it's easy enough to understand what difficulties many people are facing. Low wages when inflation is barely falling while interest rates stay higher than they should be, shortage of jobs apart from low paid 'gig' jobs.

Many of us would not turn to Reform for solutions, but even those of us who are comfortably off are suffering from crumbling public services, crumbling infrastructure (especially those potholes which make driving into a sort of slalom course to avoid them) and rising prices.

As I have just said, it needs an understanding of how a national economy works to be able to judge whether Reform could make meaningful changes in people's lives. As it happens, they are not exactly doing this in the local councils they have taken control of, which is, to me, an indication that they wouldn't be much good handling a national economy...

Well today we can be sure of a couple of things

Trump lies - and lies in a massive way.

Trump cannot open Hormuz with violence.

So on Saturday Trump threatened Iran with the destruction of much of their civilian infrastructure.

On Sunday Iran responded with a shrug saying that if that happened they would destroy all the de- salination buildings in the ME.

On Monday Trump appears to have TACO’d and in the process enriched many through insider dealing.

Today we are told thousands of US marines are heading towards the ME.

Wonder what tomorrow will bring?

MaizieD

Casdon

It’s made Sky News now regarding insider betting. If it does prove to be true, impeachment has to follow.
news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-israel-strikes-us-drone-live-sky-news-13509565#11393459

It was in the Financial Times, too.

I think you are being overly optimistic about the prospect of impeachment.

We will see MaizieD, it depends how traceable any leaks prove to be.

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

For all the same reasons Nigel Farage has been topping the polls here in the U.K.

There are pockets of the electorate in both countries where people are dissatisfied with other parties/politicians.

When you have little or no prospects, you see the majority of goods including food which you struggle to buy being produced overseas

You hear/see immigrants allegedly getting access to housing, medical/dental treatment and endless benefits.

We are not walking in their shoes…

petra

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

I listened to a lot of programs from the us prior to this election.
There were a lot of interviews with the man in the street.
They all had hope that their lives would be better, particularly people who lived in towns and cities where their jobs were no more because those jobs had gone to China and elsewhere.

It's always about the economy because it's the economy that allows for the creation or destruction of jobs and public services.

Which is why I think we all need to understand better how a national economy works so we can look at the implications of politician's promises. See if they are fact or fantasy based...

petra

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

I listened to a lot of programs from the us prior to this election.
There were a lot of interviews with the man in the street.
They all had hope that their lives would be better, particularly people who lived in towns and cities where their jobs were no more because those jobs had gone to China and elsewhere.

So what happened?
Along came his chum Musk and even more people were made redundant. 🤔

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

It was to Make America Great Again.
Whatever that means.

Casdon

It’s made Sky News now regarding insider betting. If it does prove to be true, impeachment has to follow.
news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-israel-strikes-us-drone-live-sky-news-13509565#11393459

It was in the Financial Times, too.

I think you are being overly optimistic about the prospect of impeachment.

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

I listened to a lot of programs from the us prior to this election.
There were a lot of interviews with the man in the street.
They all had hope that their lives would be better, particularly people who lived in towns and cities where their jobs were no more because those jobs had gone to China and elsewhere.

It’s made Sky News now regarding insider betting. If it does prove to be true, impeachment has to follow.
news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-israel-strikes-us-drone-live-sky-news-13509565#11393459

Fallingstar

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

Because like Farage, his hateful rhetoric plays to the fears of people who feel they have been left behind. Straight from the playbook of most of the evil men in history. Find someone different to you to lay all of your woes upon and pledge to rid you of them.

Can think of umpteen reasons why that man should never have become president.

Can anyone think of one good reason why Trump is President.
I’ve been struggling since he was elected.

Whitewavemark2

I wouldn’t be remotely surprised - price of oil. Trumps friends are making a killing - I bet.

There's a suspicion that Trumps erratic announcements (not just now, but in the past) are deliberately made to facilitate insider trading

From Bluesky this morning by a Josh Marshall

As time has gone on I've realized there is a still quite small but now non-trivial chance that the entire Iran War is simply an insider trading operation, creating repeated black swan moments and relying on markets continued willingness to gyrate wildly in the face of absurd and predictably

bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3mhr5e5tmps2y

And another poster, called BakeOff sees a pattern:

If there's one thing you can be sure of, it's that TACO always shows up just in time for the US stock market to react in opening hours, and then disappears after closing hours and tweets new bullshit just in time for other markets to open in other timezones. So predictable and so corrupt.

(TACO is Trump, of course)

(People should be able to see this thread, you don't have to be registered with BlueSky in order to read them, unlike X. I get logged out sometimes and I can still read BlueSky posts)

foxie48

Trump effectively cut 34billion from overseas aid and to date the US has spent about 60 billion on the war in Iran and has approximately 200 billion's worth of damage to it's military bases in the ME. Goodness knows how much the damage in ME countries will cost to repair. What a senseless way to spend and waste money!

Quite. Meanwhile, US citizens continue to die because they can’t afford medical care.

That “man” has caused so much harm to the world.

Why would Iran saying they're engaged in talks look as if they're kowtowing to the US Fallingstar? They were engaged in talks when first attacked.

Trump's given out so much 'fake news' since he became POTUS, he probably can't distinguish between truth and fiction.

Trump effectively cut 34billion from overseas aid and to date the US has spent about 60 billion on the war in Iran and has approximately 200 billion's worth of damage to it's military bases in the ME. Goodness knows how much the damage in ME countries will cost to repair. What a senseless way to spend and waste money!

Obvs the person taking sensibly will not be Trump.

I imagine Iran will not admit to engaging in talks, they don’t want to look as if they are kowtowing to the US. There will be a lot of hyperbole on every side but somewhere on the middle ground we can only hope somebody is taking sensibly to all players.

Trump has let the genie out of the bottle and can't easily put it back. Iran is now fully aware of how much power they hold over world economics, so much more than they had in the 80's. They have the means of possibly getting sanctions removed from them and their capacity to become a nuclear power is really no different than when they signed the deal with Obama et al in 2015, which Trump ripped up! Regime change is now clearly off the table.
Lebanon, which is a very ethnically diverse population now has a million people displaced by Israeli actions and Netanyahu shows no sign of wanting to stop. Are we looking at another Gaza? It is a bloody mess, literally with 1,000s of completely innocent people killed, injured and homeless. To top it off, people in countries that have nothing to do with this war are badly affected. Thank you Mr Trump, now get the world out of this mess you have dragged us into!!

Both the US and Iran want the war to end but on their terms.
Trump says there is a deal. Iran deny this.
Talks will be taking place in Islamabad. Representatives from.the US are on their way.
Trump has said if after 5 days there is no deal they will carry on 'bombing their little hearts out'.

Those ships willing to pay for safe passage through the Straits, which currency will they use?
The mighty dollar or the Chinese yuan?
Rumour suggests the later.
Has Trump given hostile nations an opportunity to attack the dollar?

I wouldn’t be remotely surprised - price of oil. Trumps friends are making a killing - I bet.

Yes, that was what Emily Maitlis was suggesting Maremia. . The markets rose dramatically only six minutes after Trump’s announcement apparently.

Now again it needs verification but it is being suggested that Trump's truce announcement may have been preceeded by some insider trading.
As if someone was 'in the know' and chose to cash in on the information.