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Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

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mae13 Fri 13-Mar-26 08:44:57

.......even if he wants to because he's lost control of Netanyahu.

The Israeli military is going berserk with the full blessing of Netanyahu. The US giving him support was a disastrous mis-calculation and now Israel seemingly doesn't need Trump anymore.

If he thought he would have the Iran business done and dusted in about a week, and he would come out of it as King of the World........well, his biggest mistake (among many) so far.

Casdon Sun 22-Mar-26 18:01:30

GrannyGravy13

This thread has gone down Alice’s rabbit hole 🐇🤦‍♀️

Yes it has. Why anybody could possibly think that the government’s emergency preparedness information for citizens in emergency situations should be ignored is beyond me, when it’s just sensible suggestions for all of us to do what we can to help ourselves.

LemonJam Sun 22-Mar-26 17:59:18

GG13- I share your frustration. This OP is 9 days in and Mr Trump continues to make mistakes, continues to create chaos and still has no clue how to shut this war down yet save face.

LemonJam Sun 22-Mar-26 17:56:40

Israel's unsubstantiated claim is just that- unsubstantiated.

If you prefer to put your faith in Netanyahu and/or Trump and agree with them rather than the British government- feel free ronib.

As Trump and Natanyahu started this war, created this 'incredibly tense and unknown situation" I prefer not to put my faith in them thank you.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 22-Mar-26 17:51:45

This thread has gone down Alice’s rabbit hole 🐇🤦‍♀️

Maremia Sun 22-Mar-26 17:37:58

In whom should we put our faith?
Trump?
Netanyahu?

ronib Sun 22-Mar-26 17:34:16

It’s a bit premature to agree with anyone LJ but don’t let that stop you. It’s an incredibly tense and unknown situation and your faith in this government is perhaps misplaced? Steve is not credible.

LemonJam Sun 22-Mar-26 17:17:49

agree with Casdon and Allira...

LemonJam Sun 22-Mar-26 17:16:55

Allira : 'So what do you suggest we do about it, ronib?'

Casdon 16.30: "My first tip would be to follow government guidance on preparing for an emergency situation. The second is to pay no heed to ronib, who never provides any answers to the ‘dilemmas’ she poses".

ronib 17.04: "Wow Casdon…. You think I should give answers???"

Casdon you hit the nail on the head, ronib is "wowed" that anyone could think she might provide any suggestions or answers to the particular dilemmas she poses 😉😅.

I agree it's sensible Casdon- when and if any government guidance is necessary and issued we then follow it. Steve has been doing the media rounds today and has publicly stated that there is no assessment to substantiate Israel's claim that Iran has long range missiles capable of reaching London.

Casdon Sun 22-Mar-26 17:09:34

What I think ronib is that every time somebody says something you disagree with, you throw a dead cat ‘dilemma’ into the conversation, you just did it again in fact.

ronib Sun 22-Mar-26 17:04:48

Wow Casdon…. You think I should give answers???
I am sitting tight over the next few days. I suggest you do the same before jumping in…. Or leaving the country…. Maybe move to Scotland?

Allira Sun 22-Mar-26 16:55:07

Casdon sensible answer.

For anyone who has fridges and freezers well-stocked (and that includes me) what happens if the electricity goes off?
We don't have a generator!

Casdon Sun 22-Mar-26 16:30:11

Allira

ronib

But it’s so not a game for me. I’m amazed by the misinformation being spread by Labour at the moment. It’s better simply not to listen. Gg13

So what do you suggest we do about it, ronib?

Bywe I mean us, Gransnetters and in fact the wider public?

My first tip would be to follow government guidance on preparing for an emergency situation. The second is to pay no heed to ronib, who never provides any answers to the ‘dilemmas’ she poses.

Casdon Sun 22-Mar-26 16:25:57

LemonJam

The UK Emergency Alerts system will only function on compatible devices ( e.g iPhones connected to 4G or 5G networks. Alerts will not be received if the phone is switched off, in airplane mode, connected only to 2G/3G or via wi fi.

True. On the other hand sirens did not reach every citizen either. Neither did church bells. Until we all have a chip, I don’t honestly see how it will be ever possible to guarantee every citizen gets a personal warning?

petra Sun 22-Mar-26 15:36:45

fancythat

In a way that hitting a nuclear plant in Somerset or somewhere, wouldnt??

Really?

Hinkley point won’t be operating until 2027- 2031.
So hitting a nuclear plant in somerset is irrelevant.
But if I was the enemy I would go for Sizewell B in Suffolk.
It’s also closer to Kent.

fancythat Sun 22-Mar-26 14:24:12

Ir an had better hit London in that case! More effective! People will take more notice! hmm.

Not getting at anyone.

I hd no idea bombing London would be so more effective.

fancythat Sun 22-Mar-26 14:21:11

I can see that it is not just the media that are London centric.

fancythat Sun 22-Mar-26 14:20:37

In a way that hitting a nuclear plant in Somerset or somewhere, wouldnt??

Really?

Iam64 Sun 22-Mar-26 14:11:32

I’m a proud northerner, Manchester my city. Or town as locals call it

Despite this, I easily see why London is often mentioned as a target. It’s as Petra posts the centre of our government, military hq. And so much more. It would cause mayhem and lower confidence if missiles hit

Maremia Sun 22-Mar-26 13:17:01

Joke doing the rounds on Facebook today,
'The war is going so badly just now, they might release the Epstein Files as a distraction'.

Allira Sun 22-Mar-26 13:16:33

Yes, and the crypt under Canterbury Cathedral!

petra Sun 22-Mar-26 13:14:41

Allira

There are many tunnels under Kent so people could shelter there if a warning is given.

Don’t forget the dungeons in Dover castle. 😉

Allira Sun 22-Mar-26 12:59:04

There are many tunnels under Kent so people could shelter there if a warning is given.

petra Sun 22-Mar-26 12:56:53

Fancythat
You’ve asked several times, why London?
London houses our government buildings, military headquarters and our leaders.
Bombing London could shatter the decision making chain leading to chaos leading to the slow down of our response.
I very much doubt you could cause that much damage in Royal Tunbridge Wells, Maidstone. 🤷‍♀️
Perhaps you know more than is generally known about the secrets that Kent is hiding.

LemonJam Sun 22-Mar-26 12:28:02

Trump (plus his Israeli partner) has baked himself into a corner as he enters week 4 of their war. Trump is becoming increasingly panicked it appears- masked by his belligerence to his allies that have actively come forward to support him. Hence his threats and IDF threats in my view.

Steve Reed on Laura Kuensburg this morning "Iran is not believed to have the capability or intent to hit the UK with its missiles", after Tehran aimed two at the UK-US airbase on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

One missile failed to reach the island, while another was shot down by a US warship, according to reports. It was the longest-range attack yet by Iran since the country was attacked by the US and Israel.

Asked about Israeli warnings that the UK and other parts of Europe could be targeted by Iranian missiles, Steve Reed, the communities secretary, told BBC One’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg: “There is no specific assessment that the Iranians are targeting the UK or [that they] even could if they wanted to.”

On why Israel had issued such a warning, he said: “You would need to speak to the Israelis.” Reed added: “Whatever people might say, the UK is not going to be dragged into this war, but we will take appropriate collective defensive action to keep our nationals and our interests safe.

Netanyahu and Trump's joint unsuccessful attempts to bully/coerce allies lead to an escalation in their threats.

fancythat Sun 22-Mar-26 12:27:10

Luckygirl3

mae13

.......even if he wants to because he's lost control of Netanyahu.

The Israeli military is going berserk with the full blessing of Netanyahu. The US giving him support was a disastrous mis-calculation and now Israel seemingly doesn't need Trump anymore.

If he thought he would have the Iran business done and dusted in about a week, and he would come out of it as King of the World........well, his biggest mistake (among many) so far.

He has lit a fuse and now he will be unable to control what happens on the ground. Stupid man ...

Agreed.

Wars have unintended consequences.

He so ought to have had a plan for the Strait.
I suspect there was none at all.
Or he didnt listen.
Or not listen enough.

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