Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

I have listened to a number of podcasts and read a number of different mainstream newspapers and no one thinks that this war will lead to regime change. At worst it will end in civil war, at best there will be some negotiations which give Iran something they want in return for opening the Strait of Hormuz. We will be fortunate if this mess doesn't escalate even further and completely mess up the world economy. The attack on Kharg was completely stupid, Trump's denying that he was told about it and Israel is saying he was, doesn't this bode well for future negotiations? It is an absolute mess and ATM all the Iranian regime has to do is survived to claim a win. What a major miscalculation!

Allira, dare we hope?

There’s more chance of regime change now than ever before.

In the USA? 🙏

It isn't about regime change is it Iam and never was.

I don’t expect any of us would want to live under the awful regime in Iran. Many Iranians want regime change but many do not. Bombing people into regime change has never succeeded. It’s always created instability. Civil war in Iran?

Who gave Israel the right to bomb civilians as a means of regime change. How is this illegal war meant to help innocent Iranians trying to stay alive?

For you to read ronib.
edition.cnn.com/2026/03/19/politics/trump-israel-iran-war-larijani-analysis

If Israel can continue to target successive unelected Iranian leaders, I would not discount Iranian regime change. This is the first time that this technology has been used and to great effect. Time will tell.

ronib

There’s more chance of regime change now than ever before. Israel for example has vowed to take out each new Iranian government and it looks as though they have the technology to do this.

Is there ronib? I would hazard a guess that there are a number of future leadership scenarios that are possible, and some of them will not be better than the current regime, which in any case shows no signs at all of falling so far.

There is little point in talking about regime change at present, however desirable we all might find it.

Iran’s regime is at present totally embedded, and although it is supported probably only by between 20-30% of the population, it holds all the cards in as much it entirely controls the military and the economy as well of the social infrastructure etc, so those Iranians who long for change - it must not be forgotten that change does not mean to something more amenable to the west and certainly not Israel.

I think that Netanyahu understands this and so his goal is simply to degrade Irans military power so that it is no longer a threat to Israel. Netanyahu has no wish to “save”the Iranians from their oppressors.

Trump doesn’t know what he wants, except of course the chance to further enrich the Trump dynasty.

The US and Israel's combined forces have failed to change the regime in Iran. All they have achieved is more lives lost and homeless people apart from the wider problems we all face.

The regime in Iran will be even more resolute now so this act of aggression has failed. Trump has always believed that "might is right". In this situation it was definitely wrong.

Maremia

He may not be able to shut it down, but he can, and may, walk away.
He did this in Afghanistan.

One reason among many, no country wants to be left high and dry, if they want to help keep the straits open.

There’s more chance of regime change now than ever before. Israel for example has vowed to take out each new Iranian government and it looks as though they have the technology to do this.

I don’t think there can be anybody who wants that, or anybody who thinks that this action will change the regime there ronib, do you?

How can any right thinking person want to see the Iranian government continue in its present form? Casdon

Two wrongs don’t make a right ronib. There does not seem to be any prospect of regime change as a result of this, so what is your point exactly?

In 2 days

Latest figures 36,500 killed by the Iranian government against its own people.

ronib

*Iam64*. Less people killed? 30k would have been saved at least in Iran killed by the Iranian government. In what universe wouldn’t that be better?

That argument won’t hold when the number killed in this incursion tops 30,000 though. I doubt if there is anybody on this site who wants to see innocent civilians killed due to either regime or war.

I’m no defender of the Iranian regime that oppresses and murdered its people. Mr T told them to take to the streets, help on Its way…..

This war was not started for altruistic reasons. Saving the people of Iran was not on the agenda for Trump or Netanyahu. They only do things that benefit themselves.

Iam64. Less people killed? 30k would have been saved at least in Iran killed by the Iranian government. In what universe wouldn’t that be better?

Maremia 👍🏻

Also in what universe would Isreal and the US starting this war earlier have been better

And if we as a country are concerned about Iranian women, how easy is it for them to be granted assured citizenship here?
The Australians offered asylum to those footballers, good on them.
Do we make it easy for Iranian women to settle here?
We renaged on the promises made to the Afghans.

This illegal war has nothing to do with freedom for those Iranian women.
Absolutely nothing.
If their was genuine concern for Iranian women, then why are they carpet bombing Tehran?
Why?
Bombing civilians, instead of concentrating on military targets?
Whatever makes you think that a man found guilty of sexual assault is ever going to be interested in the fate of Iranian women?

Surely acting when Israel wanted to go in with America and defeat the ayatollahs years ago would have seen a much happier result for all parties now?