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Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

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mae13 Fri 13-Mar-26 08:44:57

.......even if he wants to because he's lost control of Netanyahu.

The Israeli military is going berserk with the full blessing of Netanyahu. The US giving him support was a disastrous mis-calculation and now Israel seemingly doesn't need Trump anymore.

If he thought he would have the Iran business done and dusted in about a week, and he would come out of it as King of the World........well, his biggest mistake (among many) so far.

Oreo Sun 29-Mar-26 11:53:21

I expect the US is aware of that fact, and will sweep for mines and any other traps.

AGAA4 Sun 29-Mar-26 11:44:58

Iran has place ground mines on Kharg Island and missiles after the last attack. If the US try to take that there will be casualties.

Oreo Sun 29-Mar-26 11:38:41

It seems Kharg Island will be the target, the regime won’t want to lose that!

Smileless2012 Sun 29-Mar-26 11:36:07

If only one those heads could be Trump's hmm.

David49 Sun 29-Mar-26 11:35:39

ronib

I don’t know if Trump is thinking straight. No matter how many thousands of US marines are in Iran, it has to be the easiest bombing campaign to take the whole lot out. 5 to 10,000 against a population of 90 plus million Iranians??

Trump knows what he is trying to achieve, - a peaceful non aggressive Iran, how and if he can remains in doubt.
US generals know the difficulties of fighting determined defenders who are willing to die for the cause, it's not going to be easy to occupy anything

foxie48 Sun 29-Mar-26 11:25:21

Unfortunately he's got himself into a no win situation. Now that the Iranian regime has shown how easily it can hold the world economy to ransom, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc know that having US military bases in their countries doesn't guarantee their safety so why have them? They will want Trump to use his military to finish off what he started but it is a very unpopular war in the US and once there are American troops on the ground the casualties will increase dramatically. That will make the war even less popular even with Maga supporters that have stuck by him. If he's feeling anything in his bones ATM it will be anger towards those who encouraged him in this folly as it's never his fault. I expect we'll start to see the axe falling on a few heads in the not too distant future.

ronib Sun 29-Mar-26 10:20:09

I don’t know if Trump is thinking straight. No matter how many thousands of US marines are in Iran, it has to be the easiest bombing campaign to take the whole lot out. 5 to 10,000 against a population of 90 plus million Iranians??

foxie48 Sun 29-Mar-26 10:05:39

It looks like the war in Iran is likely to continue. Trump really doesn't have an option now as this war has completely de-stabilised the ME and now no one wants risk leaving this Iran regime in power. If you stir up a hornets nest you are likely to get badly stung!
"The Pentagon is preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran, U.S. officials said, as thousands of American soldiers and Marines arrive in the Middle East for what could become a dangerous new phase of the war should President Donald Trump choose to escalate.
Any potential ground operation would fall short of a full-scale invasion and could instead involve raids by a mixture of Special Operations forces and conventional infantry troops, said the officials. All spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss highly sensitive military plans that have been in development for weeks." Washington Post

Macaydia Sun 29-Mar-26 06:35:20

My opinion on protesting for action :

1. Organize with a clear chain of command.

2. Educate communities. Thank and educate those who join you to protest. Gather contact info from those intent to make a difference.

3. Determine which organisations profit from war and boycott those companies.

4. Promote morality - strikes and walkouts for companies supporting the conflict.

5. Determine which government officials have authority and organise targeted campaigns to communicate extensively with those individuals.

6. Do not consume, support or share media that promotes hate, violence and indiscrete bombings.

7. Participate and invest in peacebuilding initiatives to find the true cause of conflict and solutions.

8. Vote for those who favor diplomatic solutions.

9. Be aware of negative stereotyping. Do not let governments tell you who to love or hate. Its not "us and them". People and families are unique but with common alities.

Macaydia Sun 29-Mar-26 04:42:03

When has DT ever acknowledged protests? He seems to do what ever he wants and seems to change direction frquently. I dont know if its intentional or a mental issue.

Wyllow3 Sun 29-Mar-26 02:33:29

Wow...US, or world wide?

imaround Sat 28-Mar-26 23:57:13

First estimate is 8 million people.

I have no idea how the estimate these things.

www.cnn.com/2026/03/28/us/video/crowds-nationwide-no-kings-trump-administration-digvid

Wyllow3 Sat 28-Mar-26 22:20:27

Its very cheering, and tho turning out on the streets is old style, it counts a great deal I think, and we will see more and more and more as other Trump policies bite deep.

Maremia Sat 28-Mar-26 21:38:54

And there are lots of reports on Facebook.

Cossy Sat 28-Mar-26 21:31:42

imaround

Big protest day here in the US.

I see you London, and every city around the world, joining us today! thanks

🥀

Wyllow3 Sat 28-Mar-26 21:30:42

This is a good one. I like the home made banners, not mass produced ones

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7fDSD94gJQ

Wyllow3 Sat 28-Mar-26 21:26:59

Thats really great, imaround!

To see just how many, over the world, go here;

www.youtube.com/results?search_query=us+demonstrations+today

Casdon Sat 28-Mar-26 21:26:07

It’s being covered live on CNN, lots of eminent speakers at the big city rallies. Trumps probably at Mar a Lago playing golf though, deliberately oblivious.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 28-Mar-26 21:01:04

Well, that is interesting imaround. Who will be brave enough to tell Mr Trump about these events?
How much is being reported in television?

imaround Sat 28-Mar-26 20:49:36

True.

Norah Sat 28-Mar-26 20:39:10

imaround

Big protest day here in the US.

I see you London, and every city around the world, joining us today! thanks

The news reported were many more protests today. True?

Smileless2012 Sat 28-Mar-26 16:38:56

That's good to know imaround.

Elegran Sat 28-Mar-26 16:38:19

I am one of the "older people" AGA but I don't feel that the US is neutralising a threat to the US. At nearly 87, maybe I am an earlier generation to the postwar "baby boom" and those younger even than that. They are who a lot of journalists consult when they want views of "older people" to quote. Perhaps if those generations were a little older still, with memories or family stories about why it is not wise to “just go along with Trump with little thought of why he is doing this.” they would answer differently.

Experts have said that Iran posed no threat to them, though I wouldn't rule out a grumbling resentment against the US. This war is not neutralising a threat, it is aimed at disabling a trading competitor so as to ensure the US dollar's position as chief currency for oil transactions. Trump is doubtless hoping also to enhance his own glory, and his bank account too by some means or other.

The biggest global threat I can see at the moment is that Trump's erratic pursuit of violence, and his threat of it as the way to answer all international questions, could draw more countries into taking up arms and using them to either resist him or support him. The sum of the financial support of all the non-US NATO countries is close to equalling that of the US (and they are all increasing their contributions, some able to do so faster than others)

NATO countries are aware that all need to stand firm together, ready for any moves by the likes of the bear against one or more of them, but in the engagement at the moment this is not one of those moves - unless it becomes so in response to the moves of a predatory bald eagle, or someone does something precipitate to make it so.

Within NATO, the US is one among 32, surely the other 31 could vote against any unwise decision made by one among them, whether a financial or a military one? In any case, once a military decision is made, each country decides for itself whether to join in, and how much in the way of men or equipment to commit. The US can do as much or as little as they want.

imaround Sat 28-Mar-26 16:05:57

Big protest day here in the US.

I see you London, and every city around the world, joining us today! thanks

fancythat Sat 28-Mar-26 16:00:10

There is one aimed at me upthread.

Another thing I am leaving for now.

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